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Why is LSU's defense being overlooked?

Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:18 pm
I'm not saying this is a bad thing (I think it's probably a good thing, actually), but our D is certainly not being talked about amidst the "best defenses" conversation.

Our guys finna eat!!!
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:20 pm to
Don’t know but I like it
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12248 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:22 pm to
There will be some very good defenses in the SEC this year. We will definitely be one of the top 4 or 5.
Here's hoping we will be the best...
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22783 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:22 pm to
Because ESPN is comprised of people who are singularly focused...They actually only see we are replacing 5 starters on defense and don’t realize that the individuals who played behind them logged significant minutes. This includes Kary Vincent, Tyler, Phillips, Chaisson....

We also have ? Marks on players we are high on in Fehoko and Shelvin.

They also don’t put emphasis on injury and depth and how that hindered talents like Rashard and Ed Al.

This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:23 pm to
We are being overlooked because of Ed O. Winning will take care of that.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:24 pm to
Aren’t two of our defenders pre-season all American and on the bednarik watch list? I’m not sure exactly what the national perception is of the unit as a whole but I’d say Aranda is usually cited as a top notch defensive mind in the game. I feel like the d gets plenty of love.
Posted by NWLAtiger55
Haynesville
Member since Jun 2014
556 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:25 pm to
I think it’s because everyone looks at what we lost and not what we have replacing the guys lost. Upgrades all across the board in my opinion except maybe a wash with Thompson/Divinity, and K. Vincent/K. Toliver. I actually think Vincent will be better than Toliver, I say he’s a wash because he’s still a little unproven.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:30 pm to
Anyone who saw the LSU-ND game saw our D give up lots of yards at the end and also saw a D player go for the glory instead of making the play, thus allowing ND to score.

We should be solid, but HOW SOLID for SEC play are we ???

still to be determined on the field.
Posted by ShreveportTiger1987
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2014
5494 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:36 pm to
"I feel like the d gets plenty of love."



Agreed. The D always gets plenty of love..
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10207 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:36 pm to
We had the 13th best defense in the nation last year and we return Devin White, Rashard Lawrence, Ed Alexander, K’Lavon Chaisson, Greedy Williams, Grant Delpit, John Battle, Jacob Phillips,Tyler Taylor, Michael Divinity, Eric Monroe, and we add Breiden Fehoko and Tyler Shelvin. All led by the mastermind Dave Aranda.

If people are sleeping on this defense, they won’t be for long.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28382 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:48 pm to
We're guilty of it too when it comes to other teams. Remember, the national media is not as focused on LSU as we are. That said, objectively you see LSU replacing several starters in the front seven: Key, Lacatoure, Gilmore, Thompson, Alexander. Couple that with the loss of a CB (2 if you count nickle). That doesn't look good until....

...you realize the guys replacing them are likely more talented. Lacatoure and Gilmore were, at best, OK players. Neither were necessarily "bad", but they weren't game changers either. On pure talent and ability, I'm taking Alexander and Fehoko over them. You could argue at times D. Alexander was a bit of a liability on defense last year with his size. There is a reason the two true Freshman played a lot (besides the suspensions and injuries to Alexander). Now those LB's return bigger and with experience.

Key is a big loss...on paper. But outside of the Alabama game and a few moments here and there last season, he was largely a non-factor as a result of his own doing (out of shape and unmotivated). A healthy Key playing with passion was a game changer. Last year's version was just "a guy". Jackson is likely the biggest loss and LSU doesn't have a known commodity to step in and take his spot.

Of those 7 starters lost only two were taken in the draft. So yes, LSU is losing several starters. But (sorry if it offends anyone) those guys weren't game changing players. It's not like last year where LSU had to replace: Adams, White, Beckwith, Reily, Godchaux --- all guys who were drafted. And all guys who logged SIGNIFICANT playing time as rookies. Two on the all-rookie team.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66582 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:00 pm to
Because 5 of our front 7 were seen as backups last year or not elligable.

We all love Fehoka and Chaisson and Phillips but no one else knows them really
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9177 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:00 pm to
Glad they’re overlooked.
Posted by Tigereye23
Member since May 2016
60 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:07 pm to
I really think the whole team is being overlooked. Both lines are as good as just about anyone. QB is still a question, but I have a good feeling about Burrow. Someone will emerge at RB, and we have plenty talent at WR.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:28 pm to
I think Burrow will surprise people with his legs
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:52 am to
Not a bad thing they are being overlooked. The Defensive front will be nasty. Will be a visable improvement over prior seasons. D. White will be a freak show and most of the secondary will be solid. Only issue is a hole at the corner spot opposite of Greedy. I am anxious to see this unit play this year.
Posted by Jdixon1234
Member since Nov 2014
21 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:46 am to
I hope we shock the shite out of their dumb overlooking arse...
Posted by OPTIMAX CAT
Mississippi River Delta On Mars
Member since Nov 2007
823 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:10 am to
quote:

Because 5 of our front 7 were seen as backups last year or not elligable.

We all love Fehoka and Chaisson and Phillips but no one else knows them really



This is one reason IMO

The talent and the coordinator using that talent is one of the best in college football but there's still some unknowns.

LSU as a team is being overlooked and for good reason IMO. People want to see Ed Orgeron and that LSU offense take big steps forward this season on the field.

Most sports writers, Vegas and even other head coaches are predicting a 6 to 8 win season for LSU. When people think of a 7 win team they're not thinking that teams defense is one of the very best in college football.

If LSU starts the season running on all cylinders, then that means both units are playing well and the defense will be headlined.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:07 am to
I think LSU will significantly surprise people on all 3 phases. We have more on the field and off the field coaches this year. Sullivan, McMahon and Busch. We also added more S&C coaches along with more analyst. This will have an impact.

The mindset of our team and how close they are will make an impact as well. We now have leaders on this team where last year we were finding them. When players hold other players accountable, it has an impact.

If Burrow can step up and lead this offense while our OL becomes its own leadership entity as well as our WR group then this team will be special. I don't think they care what the schedule looks like. I'm going to call it now. LSU will beat either GA or Bama this year in BR and we'll make NY6 bowl game. End the season 10-2 losing to either Bama or GA then losing an away game to either Auburn or FL.

Hopefully we beat Bama/Auburn, lose to GA/FL by 3 in OT, win the west, win the SEC, and make a playoff. Crazy things can happen. With that schedule, it could happen.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:26 am to
Leadership entity?
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