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re: Why doesn't Aranda ever get any blame?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:05 pm to p&g
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:05 pm to p&g
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Because kids here have crush on him.
No crush on O and E.
Defensive rankings despite having a team start a drive 5 yards outside the redzone 7 times after the defense had played a full hard fought game.
Total Defense - #31
Rushing Defense - #38
Passing Defense - #43
Scoring Defense - #24
Offensive rankings despite starting a drive 5 yards outside the redzone 7 times after their defense had played a full hard fought game.
Total Offense - #76
Rushing Offense - #59
Passing Offense - #82
Scoring Offense - #44
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Results don’t really matter.
Or maybe they do?
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 1:06 pm
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:08 pm to LSUZombie
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2.5 million gets you the 31st ranked defense. Yes, I'm pissed with the defense (in addition to the offense and overall direction of this program and end to the season.)
He has proven that this season is the outlier
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:08 pm to T
I would like to see a comparison of our defense before we hired Aranda to our defense now.
He gets a lot of praise because the defense is the strength of the team, but when has that ever not been the case?
Aren’t we almost always good on defense?
He gets a lot of praise because the defense is the strength of the team, but when has that ever not been the case?
Aren’t we almost always good on defense?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:13 pm to uway
That's true but can't it also be true that he's a great defensive coordinator? It's also true that we play against better opponents driving that ranking down some. If we played Clemson's schedule our defense might be number 1.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:15 pm to uway
I mean look at Michigan. They were getting all this praise as a top five defense until they played an offense with a pulse and got a 60 bomb dropped on them in 4 quarters.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:15 pm to uway
quote:
would like to see a comparison of our defense before we hired Aranda to our defense now.
He gets a lot of praise because the defense is the strength of the team, but when has that ever not been the case?
Aren’t we almost always good on defense?
Our totals under chavis were always good because of our offense. Even when our offense sucked under miles we were still ranked very high in TOP because we ran a ball controlled offense and never ran a hunh. When you delve into defensive yards per play our rank took a significant hit.
IMO yards per play,1st downs per game,and scoring defense give you a better guage on how good your defense is doing than just looking at total defense.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:18 pm to uway
Well between 2005 and now our 3 longest termed DCs we’re
Bo Pellini
Chavis
Aranda
We had Malvetto in 2008 and we were significantly worse and Steele in 2015 and we were significantly worse
So maybe the reason we always have a good defense is because we always have an elite DC
Bo Pellini
Chavis
Aranda
We had Malvetto in 2008 and we were significantly worse and Steele in 2015 and we were significantly worse
So maybe the reason we always have a good defense is because we always have an elite DC
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:18 pm to uway
quote:Haven't we also always hired a quality DC?
Aren’t we almost always good on defense?
We had Will Muschamp 02-04
We had Bo Pelini 05-07
We had Doug Mallory in 2008
We had Bradley Peveto in 2008
We had John Chavis 09-14
We had Kevin Steele 15
We have Dave Aranda 16-18
Can you guess which years the LSU defense struggled?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:39 pm to TigerChief10
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So wheres the reasoning for giving him a total pass
Are you really going to knock a defense ranked 30 when we have an offense that's not even ranked half that good.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:39 pm to SammyTiger
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Well between 2005 and now our 3 longest termed DCs we’re Bo Pellini Chavis Aranda We had Malvetto in 2008 and we were significantly worse and Steele in 2015 and we were significantly worse So maybe the reason we always have a good defense is because we always have an elite DC
I’m not saying your point isn’t good, and that may be the case.
But with our talent on defense, I’m not sure we NEED Dave Aranda in order to have a great defense. I don’t see how anyone could be sure of that.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:41 pm to uway
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I’m not sure we NEED Dave Aranda in order to have a great defense.
Did we even have a great defense this season though? Did we have a $2.5 million dollars defense?
( I'm not saying the defense was bad, but was it great is the question.)
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:My metric, and being so disadvantageous for defenses, points from OT shouldn't even be included.
scoring defense
I can't believe these Eaux worshipers would actually get rid of the only qualified coach on the frickin' staff.
Let's keep the DL coach posing as HC, keep TE coach posing as OC, and fire the only reason LSU has limped to a #12 finish.
As noncontributory as the HC and OC have been, Aranda earned every penny of $2.5m putting up with HUNH3nOUT with thin D reserves.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:42 pm to uway
So what you are saying, is we don't NEED Aranda, but we NEED a top flight defensive coordinator to ensure no drop off
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:48 pm to mdomingue
We were short a few key people at the end of the game on Saturday. Fulton was a pretty big loss.
Losing your pass rush specialist early in the season hurt too.
Losing your pass rush specialist early in the season hurt too.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:49 pm to T
We shut them down for an entire half against a pretty solid A&M offense. Defense was the only reason we had a chance at the end.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:49 pm to Mayhawman
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My metric, and being so disadvantageous for defenses, points from OT shouldn't even be included.
I can't believe these Eaux worshipers would actually get rid of the only qualified coach on the frickin' staff.
Let's keep the DL coach posing as HC, keep TE coach posing as OC, and fire the only reason LSU has limped to a #12 finish.
As noncontributory as the HC and OC have been, Aranda earned every penny of $2.5m putting up with HUNH3nOUT with thin D reserves.
Deserves to be repeated.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:51 pm to tduecen
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So what you are saying, is we don't NEED Aranda, but we NEED a top flight defensive coordinator to ensure no drop off
Well we probably need somebody better than Malveto.
I don’t closely follow coaching salaries, but what I’ve picked up leads me to believe we are paying extreme top notch wages to Dave Aranda. I’m not saying he’s not worth it, I’m saying the worship he gets here seems a little over-the-top considering we were DBU before he got here and used to have much better d-line play.
If he could recruit some better d-linemen then maybe I’d join the chorus praising him.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:55 pm to T
They didn't make plays when they needed to. He had them in position to make plays and they didn't execute. Kary Vincent looked like toast at the end of the game. Alexander was torched at the end of the game. He can't play the game for them.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:55 pm to uway
To poach a coach from another school who is already proven, you are looking a 2 million. To take a chance on someone at a smaller school, you are looking at 1.5 million.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:56 pm to uway
The crux of the issue is, a team should only need one elite coordinator, as ideally, the head coach should be an elite tactitioner on one side of the ball.
The problem, however, is our last two coaches were/are not.
The problem, however, is our last two coaches were/are not.
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