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re: Why do you think that Miles has such great success against Alabama and Saban?

Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:12 am to
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15906 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:12 am to
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he is one of the few coaches in the country that has the talent to compete with what saban has put together.


This is why. Miles isn't a better coach than Saban, but he does have equal talent at his disposal. I can't think of a single person who has ever questioned LSU's talent level; it's our coaching that has been suspect at times.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9165 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:16 am to
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but he does have equal talent at his disposal.

Not on offense these days. We may have a more talented group of RBs, but they dominate us at QB, WR and OL.
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
4251 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:23 am to
I would call 5-3 versus Alabama great success. I would call 3-3 versus Saban great success because Saban has lost 1/2 the time to Miles. While Saban has won 2 out of the last BCS championships, Miles has beaten him 2 out of the last 3 times they have played...I call that great success.
Posted by Thunder Tiger
Member since Sep 2011
2608 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:31 am to
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but he does have equal talent at his disposal.

True, but that's because Les got the talent to come here. He recruits as well as Saban, and has beat him half the time. As much as people deify Saban, I'd call hanging with the grumpy midget a great success.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70144 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:33 am to
I think if both coaches remain with each school the record will swing to favor Saban
Posted by shang1
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2012
621 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:43 am to
luck
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
4251 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:45 am to
I think that if both coaches remain at the same schools that the record will continue to swing to Miles - last 3 games - Miles is 2-1. He is on a roll against Saban. I'm just looking at the trend line.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130997 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:47 am to
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We were an equally talented team in 2010 that had to play a near perfect game to win.


That game was nowhere near perfect.
This post was edited on 10/29/12 at 10:47 am
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
4251 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 10:51 am to
Doesn't a part of college coaching involve recruiting? Last time I looked, the coach makes all of the recruiting decisions in college. So if LSU has good talent and Miles is responsible for that "great talent," shouldn't he be labeled a great coach for that reason alone? Mack Brown is a great recruiter (at least according to recruiting services), but he has not been able to get his players to play up to their perceived level of talent. I think saying Miles has great talent, but is not a good field coach, is not giving Miles any credit at all for the performance on the field by his players.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
11084 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 11:07 am to
Firstly, Saban wasn't at BAMA until 07 and Miles could beat up on a team in disarray. From there, Miles has been fortunate have Chavis around to take up the slack. Now, the lack of execution on Offense is so big that the D will have trouble trying to compensate.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
27134 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 11:07 am to
Physical football at the line of scrimmage.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70144 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 11:11 am to
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I'm just looking at the trend line.


Bama is odds on favorite to win their 3rd title in 4 years. Which coach is better?
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24637 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 11:16 am to
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Because the plan to beat Alabama is simple, be succesful running the ball and keep their defense on the field. This is type of team that Miles wants because it's capable of beating Alabama

this always makes me feel better
Posted by BIGTIMETIGER
Franklin Parish
Member since Sep 2010
383 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 11:46 am to
Because Miles is not a practical coach. You can't ever predict what he's gonna do. If so he'd be easy to coach against. His success may not be pretty but it wins games and you can't deny the end result.
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
4251 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:17 pm to
I don't know which coach is better, but the stat line says, for now, at least they are equal. We shall see after Saturday night in Death Valley.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95062 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:19 pm to
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3-3 isn't great success. That means he wins 50% of the time.


So with your backhanded comment, what's that say about Saban?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95062 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:20 pm to
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I think if both coaches remain with each school the record will swing to favor Saban


6 years in and it hasn't. If Saban was impeccable like all of you treat him, then it would be 5-1, 4-2
This post was edited on 10/29/12 at 1:21 pm
Posted by TIGERBAIT2020
The Red Zone
Member since Aug 2004
802 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:24 pm to
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Why do you think that Miles has such great success against Alabama and Saban?


A: Because CLM is unconventional & unpredictable as a FB coach?
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6204 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:25 pm to
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3-3 isn't great success. That means he wins 50% of the time.

welcome to college football.

you must not be aware that no other coach in the country approaches .500 vs saban (and meyer for that fact) with as many meetings btwn them. it means miles goes punch for punch with the "best" coaches in coll fb b/c he is one of them.
This post was edited on 10/29/12 at 1:26 pm
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:33 pm to
I fricking loathe transparently disingenuous posts like this. Did we have "tremendous success" against Bama last time we took the field against them with a national championship and undefeated season on the line?

There is nothing wrong with rooting for the Tigers or being optimistic about our chances in Tiger Stadium Saturday night. I'm certainly not living in fear of Bama. But this "tremendous success" line is bullshite. It implies we have had more success than them when we clearly haven't of late. Would you trade places with Bama over the last three years? Just answer that question honestly. Of course you would. It would better to have two NC's rather than zero, one undefeated season rather than zero, and to be undefeated this season rather than having one loss.
This post was edited on 10/29/12 at 1:38 pm
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