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re: Why do you think that Miles has such great success against Alabama and Saban?
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:37 pm to TDTGodfather
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:37 pm to TDTGodfather
The Bama beat writer Cecil Hurt gave as good a reason as any in Bama Sports:
"LSU, however, is an entirely different matter. The Tigers have players of Alabama quality, in Alabama numbers. Again, I am not trying to make the LSU offensive unit into something it is not. Zach Mettenberger hasn't been consistent at quarterback any more than Jordan Jefferson was. However, the defense has been consistently good, even in LSU's loss at Florida. In a close game, it only takes a few mistakes to make the difference, as Alabama learned in the first of last year's two LSU games."
"LSU, however, is an entirely different matter. The Tigers have players of Alabama quality, in Alabama numbers. Again, I am not trying to make the LSU offensive unit into something it is not. Zach Mettenberger hasn't been consistent at quarterback any more than Jordan Jefferson was. However, the defense has been consistently good, even in LSU's loss at Florida. In a close game, it only takes a few mistakes to make the difference, as Alabama learned in the first of last year's two LSU games."
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Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:46 pm to The312
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I fricking loathe transparently disingenuous posts like this. Did we have "tremendous success" against Bama last time we took the field against them with a national championship and undefeated season on the line?
You mean like your posts that completely ignore the fact that an SEC Championship was on the line in their first meeting?
So because they lost the second game where Alabama won a trophy that was just a little bit bigger.....then the SEC Championship is ignored.
Question, in your opinion, what conference is the most prestigious championship in the country?
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But this "tremendous success" line is bullshite.
What kind of success, other than beating LSU and Miles in a game where there was a proper name attached to it, has Saban had against Miles?
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Would you trade places with Bama over the last three years? Just answer that question honestly.
Of course, but who wouldn't? But just because he has 2 titles, does that take away overall success?
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It would better to have two NC's rather than zero, one undefeated season rather than zero, and to be undefeated this season rather than having one loss.
The jealousy is strong in you.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 2:40 pm to matt314
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The Bama beat writer Cecil Hurt gave as good a reason as any in Bama Sports:
"LSU, however, is an entirely different matter. The Tigers have players of Alabama quality, in Alabama numbers. Again, I am not trying to make the LSU offensive unit into something it is not. Zach Mettenberger hasn't been consistent at quarterback any more than Jordan Jefferson was. However, the defense has been consistently good, even in LSU's loss at Florida. In a close game, it only takes a few mistakes to make the difference, as Alabama learned in the first of last year's two LSU games."
It's sad when a Bama sports writer can see what our own "fans" can't.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:08 pm to WacoTiger
Because he is smarter than Saban and has a cross that has been blessed by the last 4 Popes.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:11 pm to Prominentwon
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It would better to have two NC's rather than zero, one undefeated season rather than zero, and to be undefeated this season rather than having one loss.
The jealousy is strong in you.
That's called "reason" here in the land of rational observers. Do you dispute the notion that it would be better to have two NC's rather than none, one undefeated season rather than zero, and zero losses rather than one? Do you dispute that?
It's completely ludicrous to crow about having "tremendous success" against Bama over the last four years when any rational fan LSU would instantly trade places with Bama over that same time period - as you yourself just admitted. It's especially inane when one of Bama's NC's during the relevant time period came at our direct expense. And yes, I'm sorry, the national championship game was, in fact, bigger than the other two. As proof, I offer the fact that any sane Tiger fan would gladly have traded a 9-6 loss in Tuscaloosa for a 21-0 victory in New Orleans.
This post was edited on 10/29/12 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:14 pm to idlewatcher
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3-3 isn't great success. That means he wins 50% of the time.
Thank You. I like some of the posts in here, but this is a great point. LSU is the only team that consistently gives Alabama trouble, even when LSU is having a bad year. However, would you LSU fans objectively say that LSU finished 2010 and 2011 as the better team? Well the answer to the latter is obvious. Alabama's last 2 games in 2010 showed what they were truly capable of. There were too many mental mistakes in the secondary, and LSU was the beneficiary of one in their 2010 win. Take that away, and despite how dominant LSU may have seemed in that game, they would still lose.
There are many recent examples of the team that dominated losing. Don't take the 3-3 record for more than it's worth. Also, it doesn't matter how motivated and prepared LSU could have been on 1/9, Alabama wanted it more and LSU didn't have the quarterback to help beat Alabama. Les Miles gained the Mad Hatter nickname for a reason, he's been fortunate more than enough times.
Beating a good team twice isn't impossible. LSU beat a good Georgia team twice in 2003. Oregon could unsurprisingly beat USC twice this season. Auburn beat a decent South Carolina squad twice, much worse the second take kinda like LSU/Georgia 2003.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:15 pm to The312
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As proof, I offer the fact that any sane Tiger fan would gladly have traded a 9-6 loss in Tuscaloosa for a 21-0 victory in New Orleans.
And any sane Tiger fan will tell you if LSU loses 9-6 in Tuscaloosa last year, they would not have had the chance for 21-0 in NOLA.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:17 pm to WacoTiger
check back in 5 years
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:18 pm to Prominentwon
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6 years in and it hasn't. If Saban was impeccable like all of you treat him, then it would be 5-1, 4-2
Bama sucked when Saban was hired. LSU was elite. Which program is doing better now?
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:19 pm to The312
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That's called "reason" here in the land of rational observers. Do you dispute the notion that it would be better to have two NC's rather than none, one undefeated season rather than zero, and zero losses rather than one? Do you dispute that?
The "but I'm a realist" argument strikes again. It's been going on for 3 weeks now.
Do you dispute the notion that the first meeting vs. Alabama was for absolutely nothing?
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:20 pm to Prominentwon
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6 years in and it hasn't. If Saban was impeccable like all of you treat him, then it would be 5-1, 4-2
Yep I mean he is the great Saban right?? We have the biggest group of pussy/excuse fans around I swear.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:21 pm to Topwater Trout
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Bama sucked when Saban was hired. LSU was elite. Which program is doing better now?
Hmm Same amount of crystal, least we won our division and conference, whoa just last year.. You're a fricking idiot.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:22 pm to Topwater Trout
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Which program is doing better now?
Let me guess, we're not looking at overall numbers, right?
We're looking at National Championships in the last 3 years, I'm sure, right?
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:23 pm to TigerBait2008
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Hmm Same amount of crystal
Bama 2 crystal balls....LSU 1
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You're a fricking idiot.
oh really
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:23 pm to josh336
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The offense did nothing
Ford and Jefferson rushing for 125 yds and bout 5 yds a pop disagree with you.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:24 pm to Topwater Trout
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Bama 2 crystal balls....LSU 2
FIFY Idiot.
2003 2007 = 2
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:24 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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And any sane Tiger fan will tell you if LSU loses 9-6 in Tuscaloosa last year, they would not have had the chance for 21-0 in NOLA.
I think that's a typical, self-pitying LSU conspiracy theory. Do you really believe that the media has some special agenda that includes promoting Alabama?
In any event, it's completely beside the point. The question could be posed as follows: "Would you have rather beaten Alabama in Tuscaloosa 9-6, faced them again in the NCG, and lost 21-0; or lost 9-6 in Tuscaloosa, faced them again in the NCG, and won 21-0?" That's the hypothetical I'm advancing. And in response to that hypothetical, any sane LSU fan would choose the latter. My only point being that it is totally and completely obvious to any human being who hasn't recently suffered a head injury that the NCG was a bigger game than the regular season match-up.
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:25 pm to WacoTiger
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My question to all of you - why do you think Miles has such great success against Alabama and Saban when other coaches have failed?
Uh......he's a great football coach!!
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:25 pm to The312
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Do you really believe that the media has some special agenda that includes promoting Alabama?
Yes, along with ND and USC
Posted on 10/29/12 at 3:26 pm to Topwater Trout
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Bama 2 crystal balls....LSU 1
The slurp job over 1 trophy.
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