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Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:19 am to Bunta
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Dropped passes, how about every game for Lee?
Go back and read the thread and don't jump to this page...i say over and over how the receivers also dropped the ball for JL...
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subpar performance,
Leading us to 30 points scored is subpar? In my mind you should have a defense that can hold an Arky team under 30...not to mention again that in the second half that Crowton went to his ultra conservative bullshite...
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Not to mention JJ's vision is terrible
Link? something to prove how you know this? His vision wasn't too terrible when he looked off one receiver and then hit Lafell going into the endzone...
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he holds onto the ball way too long and is always looking to run
so you rather him throw into coverage or scramble around the pocket until he finds someone who he thinks is open failing to see a linebacker or safety that is reading his eyes b/c he refuses to run?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:21 am to bayoutiggah
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Link? something to prove how you know this? His vision wasn't too terrible when he looked off one receiver and then hit Lafell going into the endzone...
so you rather him throw into coverage or scramble around the pocket until he finds someone who he thinks is open failing to see a linebacker or safety that is reading his eyes b/c he refuses to run?
First of all, a link, are you kidding me, it's called watching the games. Throw into WHAT coverage on that play, THERE WERE AT LEAST 2 MEN OPEN DOWNFIELD AND HE DIDN'T EVEN THROW THE BALL.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:25 am to Bunta
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THERE WERE AT LEAST 2 MEN OPEN DOWNFIELD AND HE DIDN'T EVEN THROW THE BALL.
seriously...give me another example besides the 2nd to last play of the Arky game where a true freshman is forced to make a play...is that all you got?? b/c it's all you talk about
and let's talk about not seeing openings...
how bout in the bama game when JL decided to hover the ball to a receiver when he could've ran for 15 yards!
how bout the pass to mitchell during the bama game(which should've been caught)...he was covered and just so happened to beat his DB...but if JL would've looked across the field he would've seen Lafell dancing on the other sideline WIDE frickING OPEN!
and again in the bama game during overtime when JL threw into double coverage...i'm pretty sure i saw byrd open again in the middle of the endzone or around the 1 or 2 yard line
This post was edited on 12/2/08 at 7:27 am
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:39 am to bayoutiggah
no, no , no...
those facts are not important.
those facts are not important.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 8:28 am to Skillet
we had to play the ice cream man fron texas his only problem is he was not sure who to pass to 
Posted on 12/2/08 at 8:50 am to bayoutiggah
alot of you are so fixiated on one qb or the other that you miss the whole point. Neither are head sholders above the other and both, even with their upsides and talents have a long ways to go.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 8:53 am to BT
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alot of you are so fixiated on one qb or the other that you miss the whole point. Neither are head sholders above the other and both, even with their upsides and talents have a long ways to go.
the most intelligent thing said by a JL backer....i can't believe it...j/k...
but i agree
Posted on 12/2/08 at 8:55 am to Skillet
quote:Racism.
Why didn't Jordan Jefferson play earlier in the season?
Les Miles is an Evil Genocidal Racist Hat.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:01 am to BT
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alot of you are so fixiated on one qb or the other that you miss the whole point. Neither are head sholders above the other and both, even with their upsides and talents have a long ways to go.
Rant policy states that you have to take sides in a QB controversy. I got banned 3 months for saying I liked both Russell and Flynn...
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:02 am to BT
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alot of you are so fixiated on one qb or the other that you miss the whole point. Neither are head sholders above the other and both, even with their upsides and talents have a long ways to go.
stop trying to make sense, you'll lose the doc
and the lovefest for JJ after a game and a half is worse than the lovefest so many saints fans had for pierre thomas last year after 2 games
JJ may be the man, Lee may be the man, right now, if you think you have seen enough to make that decision you are simply delusional and talking out of your arse
you have seen a fraction of what the coaching staff has seen and have a fraction of the actual development.
the only "film" you have seen is maybe watching the games over on your DVR.
you don't know what the primary and secondarys were on each route.
you don't know when a wr was supposed to break in or break out or when his route was broken off.
the fact that anyone can sit there and say definintively that they have seen enough and they know who projects as a better player is an absolute joke.
if you could make that assessment with any kind of credibility or accuracy off of 48 pass attempts from a freshman on maybe 100 total (game) snaps you would be doing it for a living.
so, accept the fact that your definitive judgements are crap and nothing more than your quest to search for something to give your preference some sort of assertion
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:05 am to LSUfan4444
good post.
but if one QB had to play in the bowl game, which one would you choose?
and why?
but if one QB had to play in the bowl game, which one would you choose?
and why?
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:08 am to TheDoc
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but if one QB had to play in the bowl game, which one would you choose?
and why?
depends on the health of Lee and who the opponant is, but my first preference would be to play them both.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:13 am to TheDoc
both. b/c we looked best thisyear when lee and hatch split time. IMO.... only thing is Im pretty sure AH wants to play too... he runs as well as JJ...just doesnt have the arm.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:14 am to TheDoc
I don't think we saw enough of Jefferson to gauge what he can do. I would'nt get hung up on the 40% compl.number,the kid only had one start.He has as good or better arm than lee, he can run and in what little we saw did'nt try and force the ball. At least when he gets confused or the receivers are covered he can tuck it and run.No doubt he has more physical talent than either lee or hatch.He should have gotten more playing time. Miles hung his hat on lee and it just didn't work out.
TB
TB
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:16 am to LSUfan4444
wait a second. the subject asked "why didn't jordan jefferson play earlier in the season?"
the answer: les prefers veteranship over talent. the fact that "no arm" hatch was originally the starter to begin the year supports this claim. jordan jefferson was never given an honest open qb competition.. it was betwee lee and hatch from day one.. then the fact they wanted to freakin redshirt JJ this season is beyond me.. a season in which the only other options were hatch (no arm) and lee (only 2 years experience actually playing the QB position competitively in games)
this was the perfect opportunity to have an honest qb competition and allow the most talented kid to have a shot to win the starting job. with jefferson there would have been no need for a 2 QB system either and no distractions.
the answer: les prefers veteranship over talent. the fact that "no arm" hatch was originally the starter to begin the year supports this claim. jordan jefferson was never given an honest open qb competition.. it was betwee lee and hatch from day one.. then the fact they wanted to freakin redshirt JJ this season is beyond me.. a season in which the only other options were hatch (no arm) and lee (only 2 years experience actually playing the QB position competitively in games)
this was the perfect opportunity to have an honest qb competition and allow the most talented kid to have a shot to win the starting job. with jefferson there would have been no need for a 2 QB system either and no distractions.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:20 am to TB69
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.He has as good or better arm than lee
debatable...Lee has a much quicker release and throws a better ball at this point. JJ has the big windup and many of the passes vs. Arky were wobblers. If both continue to develop, either has plenty of arm to be successful.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:21 am to beauchristopher
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wait a second. the subject asked "why didn't jordan jefferson play earlier in the season?"
the answer: les prefers veteranship over talent. the fact that "no arm" hatch was originally the starter to begin the year supports this claim. jordan jefferson was never given an honest open qb competition.. it was betwee lee and hatch from day one.. then the fact they wanted to freakin redshirt JJ this season is beyond me.. a season in which the only other options were hatch (no arm) and lee (only 2 years experience actually playing the QB position competitively in games)
this was the perfect opportunity to have an honest qb competition and allow the most talented kid to have a shot to win the starting job. with jefferson there would have been no need for a 2 QB system either and no distractions.
BOOOOOOM
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:21 am to ForeLSU
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If both continue to develop
well lee has regressed so far...
hopefully he gets better.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 9:24 am to LSUfan4444
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depends on the health of Lee and who the opponant is, but my first preference would be to play them both.
i agree with playing them both...but i think JJ should start...and if that would happen...then aren't we handcuffed? If we sub in JL for JJ...then doesn't the opposing D know to look for the long ball? IN MY OPINION....JJ looked better in his game and a half that JL looked so that's why i give him the starter position
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