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re: Why didn't Jordan Jefferson play earlier in the season?
Posted on 12/1/08 at 10:39 pm to HusseinTiger
Posted on 12/1/08 at 10:39 pm to HusseinTiger
OMG!!!
JL was NOT ready! JJ was NOT ready! NEITHER WERE READY!!! Throwing INT's for TD's almost every game is a MAJOR sign that your QB IS NOT READY!
The ONLY reason JL was starting is because Hatch got a concussion. Oh yeah, and the small fact that RP got dismissed from the team. JL was so ready to start that a QB from Harvard started in front of him for the 1st 3 games until being injured.
Stop kidding yourselves that JL was ready and JJ wasn't. The ONLY way a QB can be READY is to garnish enough real game experience. At some point the game slows down, they began to make better decisions, and then they start feeling comfortable and the game just comes to them.
Les felt that since JL knew waaaay more of the play-book, the offense would be more open and have a better chance of getting ALL the weapons involved. JL did not handle the pressure and showed NO improvement. Les stuck with him and things got worse. JJ got the call, due to an injury to JL, and he too was NOT ready. The play-book was very scaled back and fans are still complaining about the play-calling. YOU CAN'T CALL PLAYS THAT YOUR QB HAS NO IDEA OF HOW TO RUN. That leads to a very small play-book. BUT, JJ did show improvement and looks as if they invested time in the wrong QB. Hindsight is 20-20 but in all honesty, many fans were correct when they called for JJ early into the Lee meltdown. Just like the fans were right last year when MANY questioned the Co-DC promotions.
Just cause Miles is the HC, that doesn't make him unable to make mistakes. IMHO I think that some fans are all the more angry because we have had to sit through this season and endure this BAD decision Miles made on the DC's. I agree he should be given a chance to fix it but this was a decision that most disagreed with from the beginning.
JL was NOT ready! JJ was NOT ready! NEITHER WERE READY!!! Throwing INT's for TD's almost every game is a MAJOR sign that your QB IS NOT READY!
The ONLY reason JL was starting is because Hatch got a concussion. Oh yeah, and the small fact that RP got dismissed from the team. JL was so ready to start that a QB from Harvard started in front of him for the 1st 3 games until being injured.
Stop kidding yourselves that JL was ready and JJ wasn't. The ONLY way a QB can be READY is to garnish enough real game experience. At some point the game slows down, they began to make better decisions, and then they start feeling comfortable and the game just comes to them.
Les felt that since JL knew waaaay more of the play-book, the offense would be more open and have a better chance of getting ALL the weapons involved. JL did not handle the pressure and showed NO improvement. Les stuck with him and things got worse. JJ got the call, due to an injury to JL, and he too was NOT ready. The play-book was very scaled back and fans are still complaining about the play-calling. YOU CAN'T CALL PLAYS THAT YOUR QB HAS NO IDEA OF HOW TO RUN. That leads to a very small play-book. BUT, JJ did show improvement and looks as if they invested time in the wrong QB. Hindsight is 20-20 but in all honesty, many fans were correct when they called for JJ early into the Lee meltdown. Just like the fans were right last year when MANY questioned the Co-DC promotions.
Just cause Miles is the HC, that doesn't make him unable to make mistakes. IMHO I think that some fans are all the more angry because we have had to sit through this season and endure this BAD decision Miles made on the DC's. I agree he should be given a chance to fix it but this was a decision that most disagreed with from the beginning.
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Posted on 12/1/08 at 11:06 pm to TheDoc
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it's because Lee is white and jefferson is black.
Right. Jamarcus Russell is my favorite LSU player EVER but i am racist.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 11:10 pm to bayoutiggah
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And Earl...is 54% that much better than 40%??
Yes. Do you fricking follow football at all?
40% is horrid.
54% is at least average. And damn good for a FR QB.
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And Lee has a 54% passer rating
No, completion percentage. Not passer rating.
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40% in 1-1/2 games > 54% in 7 or 8 games
40% against the worst pass DEF in the SEC(ole miss) and the worst overall DEF in the SEC(ARK) is good to you?
shite, Lee never led us to a loss this year to as bad of teams as Ole Miss or ARK.
At least he lost to teams like FL and UGA .
So far Jefferson has looked like Marcus Randall part II. People are only praising him because we dont have another QB for you RANTARDS like Doc who doesnt evne know what the spread is to oggle over.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 12:56 am to Lester Earl
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54% is at least average. And damn good for a FR QB.
Sure Lester and 50% to the other team on pick 6's is better right?
JJ should have been the starter all along..
Posted on 12/2/08 at 5:17 am to Lester Earl
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like Doc who doesnt evne know what the spread is to oggle over.
I told you what a spread was you moron.
if JJ's receivers don't drop 4 balls in that game, he has much better comp rate.
but if youre going to talk comp rate, why not bring up Jarrett Lee's in the TULANE game, or bama?
Where his was clearly under 40 percent...
huh?
you can't admit you were wrong.
which is sad.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 5:19 am to TheDoc
also, JJ led the team to 30 points.
how'd he lose the game?
the defense lost the game with stupid penalties and dumb plays.
some of you are just THICK headed
how'd he lose the game?
the defense lost the game with stupid penalties and dumb plays.
some of you are just THICK headed
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:06 am to TheDoc
It seems that somehow Lester Earl and LSUfan4444 are the only ones who have some hint of intelligence on this board. Everyone else has their had shoved so far up JJ's arse, they can't see the truth. I love all the hypocrisy going on about dropped passes, among other things, too.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:08 am to Bunta
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the defense lost the game with stupid penalties and dumb plays.
some of you are just THICK headed
And Lee played with a different defense? Sorry my friend, you are the thick headed, no, let me rephrase that, you're fricking retarded.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:12 am to Bunta
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And Lee played with a different defense?
no, but he did have a better run game in his wins.
but I guess you decided that stat wasn't important.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:23 am to Slidell Tiger76
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he wasn't ready
Obviously Lee wasn't either.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:51 am to Lester Earl
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Yes. Do you fricking follow football at all?
40% is horrid.
54% is at least average. And damn good for a FR QB.
it's funny how you skip the post to where i caught my error....
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shite, Lee never led us to a loss this year to as bad of teams as Ole Miss or ARK
Hmmm....seems like Ole Miss beat Florida and finished higher than LSU in the West...and Arky and Ole Miss both gave Alabama something to think about
Lee never led us to a loss? Throwing into double coverage in overtime didn't lead to a loss? In my book it does.
The only game that you and every other JL homer has to hold on to is the Auburn game. And it's clearly now that Auburn wasn't the team that we thought they were and AGAIN we had to rally back due to a JL pick six in the flat. And when the smoke clears...truth is that JL got lucky to win that game
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At least he lost to teams like FL and UGA
Yes...PLEASE don't mention how he struggled against the likes of TULANE and fricking TROY! 2 teams that are greatly inferior to Ole Miss AND Arky!
This post was edited on 12/2/08 at 6:54 am
Posted on 12/2/08 at 6:53 am to Skillet
Didn't i read before the season that Cannon felt that Jefferson should start.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:00 am to fanrun
JL got worse as the season progressed, he obtained his stats against north texas app. state.
He did not pass for 40% against OM or Al.
JJ looked much better and will start the bowl game.
He did not pass for 40% against OM or Al.
JJ looked much better and will start the bowl game.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:03 am to Bunta
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no, let me rephrase that, you're fricking retarded
nice 40th post there internet tough guy....go back to lurking...we see that you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation....
as much as i disagree with Lester and the rest of the bunch, at least they are able to keep the replies somewhat intelligent and informative
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:08 am to bayoutiggah
quote:Damn, I better post some more so I can get more IQ points. And internet tough guy? Since when does calling someone a moron fall under the category of internet bullying. Also, good job only quoting part and one of my posts. Somehow you're all praising JJ for a less than subpar performance, and using excuses for him when the same things happened to Lee. Dropped passes, how about every game for Lee? Not to mention JJ's vision is terrible and he holds onto the ball way too long and is always looking to run. How about that last play before the 63 yard attempt when he had AT LEAST 3 receivers open, but chose to hang onto the ball for 8 seconds or so and do nothing?
nice 40th post there internet tough guy....go back to lurking...we see that you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation....
as much as i disagree with Lester and the rest of the bunch, at least they are able to keep the replies somewhat intelligent and informative
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:13 am to Bunta
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when he had AT LEAST 3 receivers open, but chose to hang onto the ball for 8 seconds or so and do nothing?
he did hang on to the ball too long.
but i'd rather him not throw it into double coverage, and at least give us a chance at another play.
Jarrett lee more than likely throws a pick in that situation.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:13 am to Bunta
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Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:14 am to TheDoc
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Jarrett lee more than likely throws a pick in that situation.
Considering how they were open and the positioning of the DBs, I doubt it.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:16 am to Bunta
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Considering how they were open and the positioning of the DBs, I doubt it.
16 picks, with 7 pick 6's in there says otherwise.
Posted on 12/2/08 at 7:17 am to TheDoc
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16 picks, with 7 pick 6's in there says otherwise.
And that stat matters not, like I said, they were plenty open and the DBs weren't even in a position to make the int.
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