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Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues

Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:57 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21006 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:57 am
Is CEO actively involved in this absurd defense or is he staying out of the way?
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26415 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:58 am to
He doesn’t want to be proven wrong
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
11101 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:58 am to
Cause he has no idea what to do. He leaves everything to his coordinators cause he can’t coach himself
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29537 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:59 am to
BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW Xs and Os.

It is REALLY SIMPLE.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:05 am to
At one point we punted and pinned them back at the 1 ft line....the next play, they simply ran around right end for 20.

Gaye, #11, just stood there. No containment! Basic, 4th grade football, jeep containment

When guys are doing that, they suck.
Posted by CFF lover
Carolina Piedmont
Member since Oct 2020
278 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:07 am to
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Cause he has no idea what to do. He leaves everything to his coordinators cause he can’t coach himself


I believe that is the bottom line. He is clueless.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8169 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:23 am to
He's a DL coach, never been a coordinator.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:24 am to
He isn’t a coach who can coach either side of the ball.

There is absolutely a reason he was never able to get hired as a DC.
How can people not understand this?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33204 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:25 am to
Bingo. He has zero coordinator experience.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23012 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:27 am to
That would be like asking your car mechanic to program a network switch. That is not the answer
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22106 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:30 am to
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Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues by rds dc
Is CEO actively involved in this absurd defense or is he staying out of the way?


And do what?

Make Jacoby Stevens play better, smarter, faster?

Create 17 more scholarship players?

Beat em senseless and have 5 more players opt out?

We have 68 scholarship players... let thatsink in
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:31 am to
He has never been a coordinator.
Posted by rsylve
Terrytown, LA
Member since Feb 2013
3966 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:32 am to
Bill Johnson is a shite line coach and was fired by Sean Payton. So was the special teams coach because coverage units were shite. Nothing has changed.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by coldcace06
Member since Oct 2014
212 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:33 am to
Hes not a X and O coach hes never even been a coordinator
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:33 am to
Too many holes. Too many guys left + opt outs. Guys just not ready to play at this level. He was a victim of his own success. A 2 loss SEason last year and no opt out and the D This year is absolutely stacked
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1840 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:35 am to
this is the simplified defense they said they were gonna do after Mizzou. the scheme is as simple as it can be.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37759 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:38 am to
He has tried, and failed
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22501 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Why can't CEO step in and Correct the Defensive Issues


Just as you are excellent & knowledgeable when it comes to tropical systems, O is just the opposite when it comes to game planning against offenses especially modern spread offenses.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22771 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Too many holes. Too many guys left + opt outs. Guys just not ready to play at this level. He was a victim of his own success. A 2 loss SEason last year and no opt out and the D This year is absolutely stacked

That might play a part, but it shouldn't lead to losses to Mizzou and Miss State, and a blowout loss to Auburn.
That isn't even a good Auburn team, nor are the others having big seasons even by their own standards.

OP asked why Orgeron doesn't address the defense himself.

Look back at Miles, when things got bad, Les stepped in and did what he did; smashmouth power running team, Toss Dive, etc. No more Jimbo, no more Crowton, straight-up Les.
We laugh and criticize that, but the truth is, it worked for the most part. Stopped the bleeding in 2008, we finished with 8 wins and killed Georgia Tech in the bowl. Built that up to 2011 and a title run, beat Saban's Alabama team a couple times (2010, 2011) along the way. That's because Les understood that style enough to implement it, and we had the dogs to run it against 99% of CFB (ultimately, just not Bama).

We're fast approaching that point now, where if Orgeron has any idea at all on defense, we're going to see it. The offense, despite yesterday, has been good enough to win probably 80-90% of our games. The defense has been bad enough (yes, even against Vanderbilt) to lose every game. Vandy had guys running wide open that they just never hit. South Carolina ran at will.

If we don't see any unique changes, that's your answer on whether O has any actual coaching ideas.

Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4121 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:15 pm to
he has forgotten more about coaching then you will ever know.
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