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re: Why are people ignoring Orgeron's record at Ole Miss

Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:55 am to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:55 am to
rational people would say sure, a man can learn from his mistakes, but PROVE IT by going to a lower school as a head coach and winning. Then we'll know he's learned.

But merely saying we're going to discount the miserable failure at Ole Miss just because it was 10 years ago and O has "learned" is absolutely absurd.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:56 am to
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That record is, however, an indicator, so in that manner, it is very relevant.


Well, it's relevant if you're considering that applicant compared to other applicants. It is irrelevant to the state of affairs at LSU in 2017, period.

No amount of bashing, rehashing or handwringing can make it relevant. He has different coordinators, position coaches, players, facilities, fan support, etc. There is no sure way of knowing if a guy is going to come in and have different results in a different situation, 10 to 15 years removed from his last similar job.

So, is it fair to make assumptions about it? I can concede that. Is it "relevant" in any way? No. Not at all. Period.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68313 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:58 am to
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Snowflake don't click on it if you don't want to.



I'll gladly click and post that stupid threads are stupid.

You're welcome.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58660 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:58 am to
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Is it "relevant" in any way? No. Not at all. Period.


quote:

So, is it fair to make assumptions about it? I can concede that.


So is it relevant, or isn't it? Make up your mind.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:00 am to
You are probably one of the most ignorant on this site, and that is a fact. Ironic you call others ignorant. You have never even had a real job.
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5565 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:00 am to
downvote for even asking...
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:00 am to
Oh no. Coach O. Ole Miss. Bad. Me mad. Me sad. Melty welty.

There. feel better?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58660 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:03 am to
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You are probably one of the most ignorant on this site, and that is a fact. Ironic you call others ignorant. You have never even had a real job.




As a matter of fact, I do have a real job. A pretty good one in fact. A much better one than being a lackey for a peon media personality in Baton Rouge who has hitched himself to the star of LSU's football coach.

Why don't you RA me again to have my account suspended, like the little bitch that you are?
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:03 am to
100% agreed. Also, it is comical when they excuse poor first year results by a coach simply because he had success. It tells you real quick about the intelligence level of the posters. Just a bunch of clueless college kids
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:04 am to
quote:

So is it relevant, or isn't it? Make up your mind.


It isn't. Period. I merely concede that if a person wants to make assumptions about future performance, that's fair based on his record at Ole Miss.

But - again - the time to take that into consideration is before you hire him. If you hire him (which we did - I know, you folks think this is some sort of bad dream, but it's reality), then you have to set that aside and move forward, together. Otherwise, you're not really a fan of the team - only a fan of individuals.

This is like the abused, abandoned "first wife" Sabanistas. Really sad they're pining for a guy who left us, damned near 15 years later - we didn't fire him, he left us. We let Joe Alleva pick Miles' successor.



Joe Alleva - that was our first mistake. We compounded that by letting him try to fire Miles (and not go through with it), then after successfully firing Miles on the Mulligan, to then make this hire - the single most important personnel decision that the university administration can make - without any adult supervision, whatsoever.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:04 am to
Yes, clearly, you have such a real job that it allows you to spend all day on a damn message board bashing lsu's coach. Must be an important job indeed.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:06 am to
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Is it "relevant" in any way? No. Not at all. Period.

are you honestly saying that O's record at Ole Miss is not relevant at all????

That truly is the dumbest thing I've read on the Rant in many moons.

O's prior HC experience is by far the MOST RELEVANT data point.

If you failed miserably at your prior job and haven't had a similar job in a decade, be sure to say during your next interview that your prior failure is irrelevant. See how that goes over.

But bring a binder and it'll all be good.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 10:07 am
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17168 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:06 am to
Did you really think that your thread was going to be something that hasn't been discussed here?

Good lord the rant is a dumpster fire.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11423 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:07 am to
don't need to. how he lost to uflorida last season is about all I needed. I know he loves LSU, as do we, but that ain't gonna feed the bulldog
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:07 am to
Bro you put up almost 800 posts in 22 days so it appears you are on here quite a bit too.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70902 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Ignoring it? Have you searched "miss" on this board?



No, why the hell would anyone do that?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Why are people ignoring Orgeron's record at Ole Miss


I wish I could ignore it. It's the giant elephant in the room.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58660 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Yes, clearly, you have such a real job that it allows you to spend all day on a damn message board bashing lsu's coach. Must be an important job indeed.


All day? Bitch, do the math on our posting rates. You post three times more than I do in a day's time.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70902 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

..it is obvious that your opinion is based on personal dislike either for him, or because YOUR guy was not hired.



this just isn't true.

sure, people change over a 10 year span.

but show me a coach who was as bad as Orgeron was at OM, and eventually won the SEC.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 10:08 am to
Again...it isn't as if he hasn't had the opportunity to prove himself at major universities going 12-4 taking over for two fired coaches midseason. Of course the O haters say that doesn't count, which is comical. Guess what, he has won 80% of his games as lsu's official head coach.
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