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Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:14 pm to TigerNE
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This wouldn't be nearly as big a deal as it is if LSU could develop top-tier QBs,
We had that until he got hurt in the 3rd game of the year but we were still losing because our defense was so bad
But probably win or come really close this past Sat if Brennan is playing
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:15 pm to lsupride87
I’m ok with selling the NFL. That’s what these kids want for the most part. Can’t argue that it doesn’t work. We are a top 5 program over the past 20 years. Seasons like this one sucks obviously but they are typically the anomaly and not the norm
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:16 pm to LNCHBOX
In the three years 2017, 2018, and 2019 LSU has had 14 underclassmen in total declare for the NFL draft.
Alabama had 15 in that span and Ohio St - 14
Alabama had 15 in that span and Ohio St - 14
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:20 pm to SlowurRole
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In the three years 2017, 2018, and 2019 LSU has had 14 underclassmen in total declare for the NFL draft.
Alabama had 15 in that span and Ohio St - 14
That’s no fun tho
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:30 pm to Lester Earl
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Was will Clapp in the 2018 draft class?
Could he have been better served by coming back and dominating on the 2019 team and being drafted higher than a late 7th pick? what point do you think you're making with that?
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:32 pm to SlowurRole
quote:
In the three years 2017, 2018, and 2019 LSU has had 14 underclassmen in total declare for the NFL draft.
Alabama had 15 in that span and Ohio St - 14
Seems like a nice arbitrary cut off time to try to make a point. So at best we are tied for second most recently. Great point you've made
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:32 pm to lsupride87
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Stopping it is not easy.
Coach Ed Orgeron and LSU have started using external help in the form of consultants, said Verge Ausberry, deputy director of athletics. They distribute packets of information to underclassmen mulling a leap to professional sports, with specifics to that prospect’s value and how it could increase with a return to college.
“We educate our young men (on) how it works, your value, where you want to go and getting the most out of your value,” Ausberry said. “Just don’t go to the NFL to go to the NFL. You have outside consultants Coach O has used very well and you see the numbers of guys who have come back.”
The trend this year ticked up
You left this part out of your 2018 article
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:34 pm to TigerNE
quote:This
This wouldn't be nearly as big a deal as it is if LSU could develop top-tier QBs, one right after another, like some select other programs do. This prevents us from competing at the highest level on a more consistent basis far more than the defections do.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:36 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Could he have been better served by coming back and dominating on the 2019 team and being drafted higher than a late 7th pick? what point do you think you're making with that?
Of course he should have came back
Read the OP, there is a direct quote from him about what was being sold when he entered the program.
Coach O has gotten much much much much better players than will Clapp to return to school since then.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:39 pm to LNCHBOX
It's not so arbitrary.
It is helpful in assessing current claims of unexpected loss of underclassmen to the the draft AND in assessing Orgeron's performance at roster management.
It is helpful in assessing current claims of unexpected loss of underclassmen to the the draft AND in assessing Orgeron's performance at roster management.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:42 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Updated Numbers
That’s no fun tho
Underclassmen declaring early since 2013(not including this year yet). So this also doesnt include the guys that straight up just quit this year
lsu 42
Bama 32
Florida 31
Ohio St 29
Clemson 27
quote:LSU has averaged 6 a year since leading everyone since 2013
Coach O has gotten much much much much better players than will Clapp to return to school since then.
Coach O has averaged 5 underclassmen leaving a year. This isnt taking into account he lost 4 starters who quit this year
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
Seems like a nice arbitrary cut off time to try to make a point.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:45 pm to Lester Earl
quote:There is no article that easily tabulates the data before 2013
Seems like a nice arbitrary cut off time to try to make a point.
Feel free to go track the earlier years
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:46 pm to nitwit
quote:Coach O has averaged losing 5 underclassmen a year, add the 4 starters that quit this season and he is averaging 6, which is exactly in line with Les
It is helpful in assessing current claims of unexpected loss of underclassmen to the the draft AND in assessing Orgeron's performance at roster management.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:48 pm to Midtiger farm
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We had that until he got hurt in the 3rd game of the year but we were still losing because our defense was so bad
Definitely. I was by no means taking a dig at Brennan.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:48 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:51 pm to Lester Earl
Well, considering Chase, Shelvin, Marshall, Farrell and Vincent declared early this season foregoing eligibility, those numbers dont really tell the story either do they?
Update
LSU 19
Bama-15
OSU-14
So Coach O still leading the culture of me at LSU
Update
LSU 19
Bama-15
OSU-14
So Coach O still leading the culture of me at LSU
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:57 pm to Lester Earl
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Of course he should have came back
Read the OP, there is a direct quote from him about what was being sold when he entered the program.
Coach O has gotten much much much much better players than will Clapp to return to school since then.
I will again ask what point you think you're making. No one has argued that all players leave LSU early.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:57 pm to lsupride87
LSU not this year . None even look like college level players
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