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re: Why (and who)built the culture of playing for yourself at LSU? facts included
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:55 am to p&g
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:55 am to p&g
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The fact we have “fans” here that are damn near giddy about this and proud of it is sad. You’re not cool or progressive or enlighten by taking a stance of you want some 20 yr old kid to make a bunch of money. That “kid” doesn’t give one single frick about any of us.
Who gives a shite about any of that? I look at it from a pro capitalism view point. In this case, these players hold almost all the power. They just haven’t realized it as a unified group yet.
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:56 am to J2thaROC
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What else can you offer a kid who want to play NFL football?
The opportunity to set yourself for life with your first contract rather than your second. It works for him.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:56 am to J2thaROC
I look at it as a fan.
I want LSU to win games.
2019
2020
Hard to tell difference huh?
I want LSU to win games.
2019
2020
Hard to tell difference huh?
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 11:57 am
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:57 am to J2thaROC
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Who gives a shite about any of that? I look at it from a pro capitalism view point. In this case, these players hold almost all the power. They just haven’t realized it as a unified group yet
Yep
Why should I be jealous of Bama convincing kids to stay for Saban's gain
It is usery
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:58 am to lsupride87
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No they arent at all
LSU has played in 4 national championship games in 20 years.
They recruit the same players.
So yea they are. They just don’t play in cupcake leagues.,
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:58 am to misey94
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The opportunity to set yourself for life with your first contract rather than your second. It works for him.
Meanwhile, most of these guys have bills to pay.
I find it disturbing that in a capitalistic system, any of you would advocate for anyone to not be employed and become part of the system.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 11:59 am to bstew3006
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He will then do dishonest mental gymnastics
He is almost without peer when it comes to this
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:00 pm to p&g
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I look at it as a fan. I want LSU to win games. 2019 2020 Hard to tell difference huh?
Ok but the players owe you nothing.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:00 pm to J2thaROC
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I find it disturbing that in a capitalistic system, any of you would advocate for anyone to not be employed and become part of the system.
College and NFL collude and hinder free market
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:00 pm to Penrod
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LSU has three national championships this century. We are DEFINITELY in that class.
Last 10 years final rankings
Clemson- will finish top 5 this year
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1
4
1
2
15
8
11
22
OSU-Will be top 5 this year
3
3
5
6
4
1
12
3
ie
LSU- will finish with losing record
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6
18
13
16
Unranked
14
14
2
A human being has to be completely intellectually dishonest to say these programs are equal in terms of sustained success
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:01 pm to thelawnwranglers
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College and NFL collude and hinder free market
Which should not be tolerated in a capitalistic society. Or are you saying that capitalism has severe flaws?
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:02 pm to J2thaROC
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Meanwhile, most of these guys have bills to pay. I find it disturbing that in a capitalistic system, any of you would advocate for anyone to not be employed and become part of the system.
You are a fool if you think these guys and their families aren’t are all getting paid.
That said, the NCAA needs to get off its arse and enact new rules for profiting off is sponsorships and use of likeness. That will change how some of these guys approach preparation for the draft and it won’t incur the wrath of Title IX in the process like direct payments would.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:03 pm to J2thaROC
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Which should not be tolerated in a capitalistic society. Or are you saying that capitalism has severe flaws?
You're trying way too hard with this fyi
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:04 pm to misey94
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You are a fool if you think these guys and their families aren’t are all getting paid.
I have zero proof of this so I assume nothing.
If so. Are they making as much as the NFL is offering with benefits? I highly doubt it. Even the practice squad players are making a pretty good living especially when you factor in their benefits like health insurance
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:04 pm to J2thaROC
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Which should not be tolerated in a capitalistic society. Or are you saying that capitalism has severe flaws?
What’s capitalist about labor unions? It’s a union and the NFL who control the rules over who can be drafted. The NCAA doesn’t have much to do with it beyond controlling eligibility.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:04 pm to J2thaROC
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Which should not be tolerated in a capitalistic society. Or are you saying that capitalism has severe flaws?
Shouldn't be allowed - fake amateurism is being propped up with this
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:06 pm to lsupride87
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A human being has to be completely intellectually dishonest to say these programs are equal in terms of sustained success
Lsu isn't as good as Clemson or tOSU is the point?
Agreed
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:06 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're trying way too hard with this fyi
Am I? I’m all for people using their talents to get ahead in life. I have used mine to my advantage numerous times in order to leverage a higher salary than most. It’s good to be unique and required.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
LSU is going to close on their 3rd straight top 5 recruiting class.
It’s irrelevant where a Les miles-coached team finished, or where a coach O led team finished after taking over for a fired head coach.
Recruiting speaks to perception of your program. And LSU having the best season in CFB history backs that up on the field.
There are maybe 3 schools that have had a better 3 year run than LSU on the field & in recruiting. Even with what is happening right now.
It’s irrelevant where a Les miles-coached team finished, or where a coach O led team finished after taking over for a fired head coach.
Recruiting speaks to perception of your program. And LSU having the best season in CFB history backs that up on the field.
There are maybe 3 schools that have had a better 3 year run than LSU on the field & in recruiting. Even with what is happening right now.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:07 pm to p&g
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p&g
You so mad
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