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re: Why all the hate for Shores?

Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75274 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:12 pm to
every time I e got to watch him it feels like he gets 0 borderline pitches and every soft grounds stipples right past a diving infielder

I think his Opp BABPOP was like .395 going into today.
Posted by Moonshot54
Member since Mar 2025
222 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:14 pm to
Ump today was bad - he threw multiple fastballs right across the chest that were ignored.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6389 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:13 pm to
Some people confuse honesty with hatred. He doesn't have a reliable secondary pitch. That remained true, even today, but he was able to throw the ball over the plate enough, and with the weather conditions pitching in, it was a solid outing.

I see people talking about "not having patience", along with the "haters" accusations flying around, but saying that someone doesn't have an out pitch is not hatred, nor is it a lack of patience. It's just an observable fact. There's a big difference between saying "he doesn't have an out pitch" and "he'll never have an out pitch".

I'll take today's result 10 times out of 10 from him. The process, however, I don't believe is sustainable, and we have more than enough sample size to back up that statement. With his fastball, if he had any kind of decent second offering, even if his location remained iffy, I think it would make him extremely formidable.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Cryin Kelly
Member since Dec 2023
187 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:16 pm to
Shores is all upside. He has the build and velocity you’d want out of a major leauge starter.

He also has some pretty rough advanced stats and has had some bad starts.

Not convinced with start today. He was good but weather was made for pitchers.

Hopefully he can string some together.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14743 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:24 pm to
Noone hates Shores. We are all pulling for him. Some people are just concerned that he has a blazing fast fastball that goes straight as an arrow and is too hitable.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19003 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:37 pm to
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Not convinced with start today. He was good but weather was made for pitchers.


IMO, he moved the pile forward. Still a work in progress.
Posted by TigersJump
In a land far far away
Member since Feb 2018
2907 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:39 pm to
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Most of the “baws” on here have the emotional patience of a 14 year old girl.


Facts. We have a winner.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
6869 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:05 am to
I dont think its hate he is the most vulnerable of the 3 starters.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2061 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:16 am to
I think a lot of people, myself included, set some unreal expectations for the kid with all of the hype surrounding him. At the end of the day this is still a kid that only pitched 18 innings as a freshman, is coming back off of an injury, and basically hadn't pitched in 2 years. There is still some development needed but those thing dont happen overnight. Thankfully he is showing signs of progress.
Posted by markthetiger
alexandria
Member since Aug 2005
1065 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:12 am to
I think the problem is the way he pitches. Always seems to labor out on the mound and many times takes batters deep into counts. He always seems to mess with fire, but then you look at his stats and they are not that bad.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80075 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 9:43 am to
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He also has some pretty rough advanced stats and has had some bad starts.

Which ones? They all look pretty average to slightly above average to me
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