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Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:52 pm to sharkfhin
LSU moneyline. IMO Clemson is slightly overrated
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:57 pm to sharkfhin
I put 20 ML when the line went to. 4.5. So +155
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:00 pm to LSBoosie
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How much did Ole Miss and FSU spend and what were their records?
Ole Miss lost 3 games by a total of 13 points including the OT loss to LSU.
They also beat UGA 28-10 and USCe 27-3. So if you do like opponents with Clemson that's OM 2-0 55-13 and Clemson 0-2 17-51. That is pretty telling.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:10 pm to sharkfhin
They are returning 17 guys
That lost to 3 SEC teams.
Ok
That lost to 3 SEC teams.
Ok
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:13 pm to DRock88
Tigers are a lot better than people think.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:20 pm to sharkfhin
Might put a stack on it.
Not a huge gambler, but I did well this quarter. Might have some fun with it.
Not a huge gambler, but I did well this quarter. Might have some fun with it.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:30 pm to DRock88
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We will punch them in the mouth, so let's see how they respond. I think LSU will overwhelm them with athleticism and aggression.
Man, we’d all love to see this
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:32 pm to LSBoosie
He's right though. if you look at the previous seasons in the playoffs compare every team and how much money they spent. The teams spending are more likely in the playoffs than not. Pretty simple really.
Tenn has sneaky money in the SEC and is one of the richer programs nobody knows about. Look where they got spending a little money. Ohio State bought up SEC talent so naturally they won the championship.
Spend and you're more likely to see success than fail. That metric can easily be backed up in recent years for the playoffs. Florida State is an anomaly more than it's the actual norm and Ole Miss was very close to a playoff bid last year.
I don't agree with him on returning starters don't mean as much as they use to. Where he's right on this is there's no more roster rebuild excuses. You dip into free agency and can instantly flip your roster's talent with the portal. That's where the difference is. Chemistry still matters because you're breaking in new players into a system they're not familiar with. That still impacts roster turnover even if they're talented+experienced.
Tenn has sneaky money in the SEC and is one of the richer programs nobody knows about. Look where they got spending a little money. Ohio State bought up SEC talent so naturally they won the championship.
Spend and you're more likely to see success than fail. That metric can easily be backed up in recent years for the playoffs. Florida State is an anomaly more than it's the actual norm and Ole Miss was very close to a playoff bid last year.
I don't agree with him on returning starters don't mean as much as they use to. Where he's right on this is there's no more roster rebuild excuses. You dip into free agency and can instantly flip your roster's talent with the portal. That's where the difference is. Chemistry still matters because you're breaking in new players into a system they're not familiar with. That still impacts roster turnover even if they're talented+experienced.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:39 pm to friendlyobservation
Well yeah, the teams that spend the most money will generally do better than those that don’t. Just like the teams the recruit the best will generally do better than those that don’t. But there is still something to continuity, especially in game 1. It’s also interesting that the most number of transfers that a championship team has brought in the year before is 9 and LSU brought in 18 this offseason. I don’t think there’s enough data to say definitively if that’s a good or bad thing, but it’ll be fun to watch play out over the next few years.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:42 pm to LSBoosie
Yeah I don't think that will be as big of an issue because LSU is still reinforced with talented HS classes the past few years so there's still continuity there.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:49 pm to sharkfhin
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I know what you tried to say. I'll take 17 returning starters all day and every single year. frick Ohio State. The same Clemson group last yr lost 1 more game than that 20 million did. Ill take chemistry and returning players all day.
Mentioning wins and loss record from teams from different conferences is so 1990.
Who the F cares that Clemson had a better record (barely) than us last year. They played UGA… the rest of their schedule was garbage. The one other mid to upper tier SEC team they played waxed their arse at home (South Carolina). SMU almost embarrassed them in the ACC championship.
I think their offense is average.
By all reasonable expectations, our Offense will be good to very good. Good is the floor as that was who we were last year.
By all reasonable observations, Our D is finally stacked again. We’ve got 2 real dudes at nearly every position. The past 3 years, we barely had a real dude at every other position.
Watch and bookmark this shite, we win by double digits…
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:52 pm to tibebecolston
I may not be sure of much, but I am sure about this....Our D is gonna be light years better.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:54 pm to friendlyobservation
I mean it’s very possible the 50% of the 22 starters that take the field against Clemson will be playing their first game in an LSU uniform. That’s pretty substantial.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:04 pm to LSBoosie
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How much did Ole Miss and FSU spend and what were their records? Or do you only want to look at teams that fit your narrative?
OP made it a point to talk about the number of Clemson’s returning starters as a reason he’s betting on them to beat LSU. Clemson is obviously one of the top programs in the country and they’re going to have a great team, there’s a good chance they do beat LSU.
My only point was that number of returning starters isn’t the same thing that it was before the portal. Every “new” starter for LSU was a starter somewhere else last year with the exception of the OL.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:30 pm to sharkfhin
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its the same defense we've seen for the last 10 years, Clemson gonna curb stomp lsu.
Yep, because that 2019 team stunk up the place. How'd that work out for Clemson?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:32 pm to sharkfhin
LSU rolls. I’m feeling 38-20.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:00 pm to Gnash
Right, but I think the “returning players” factor is emphasized on this game specifically because it’s week 1. I’m one of the guys that thinks we likely lose to Clemson but will end up being a better team than them by the mid way point/end of the season.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 3:56 am to sharkfhin
I wouldn’t put much money on this game for either outcome, but if I had to definitely would put it on Clemson.
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