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re: Which past LSU team had best chance vs 2019
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:23 am to KC Tiger
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:23 am to KC Tiger
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If you go back and categorize points scored in 2011 you will find that a disproportionately large percentage were scored by, or set up by, defense and special teams.
That and, with the defense and knowing our D/ST would eventually save us, Miles could just run into brick walls for 3 quarters and then we gashed teams late. We could only do that with that safety net and knowing we'd be up 2+ scores at some point.
We saw what happened when a team was like "Ok we won't turn it over and will play safe on STs" and we could not cross the 50.
If you want the best example of the "holy shite we suck but a D/ST play swung all the momentum" just go look at the SECCG that year against UGA. West Virginia had the KO return that did it. Happened against Oregon, too. etc etc
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:27 am to Tiger1988
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Bama 2011 was the best they ever had and was the only team to beat them…
Bama wasn't the only team to hold that offense in check
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:36 am to KC Tiger
I'll throw in 2010. The punting was good enough on that team to keep a national champion Auburn team between their own goalline and the 50 most of the game. Probably the best secondary we will ever have. Offense was somewhere from awful to mediocre but we were never out of a game that year.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:18 am to Grad92
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The only way to beat the 2011 team was to have a better defense than them, 2019 did not have a better defense than 2011.
So…the 2019 team, possibly the best ever in CF history, would repeatedly lose to the ‘11 team? Based on your logic (and without really saying it), 2011 Bama would also beat 2019 LSU. LSU’s offense in ‘19 was legendary w/a once in a lifetime QB. As good as those defenses were in ‘11 (both LSU and Bama), ‘19 would still win by 2 TD’s.
And LSU should’ve beaten AU by 3 TD’s. They got inside the 10yd line a few times and were stopped because of some silly playcalling. LSU still wasn’t a finished product by that point. LSU late in the season would’ve beaten AU by 21 points easily.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:37 am to MetryTyger
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Gave up a then NCAA record 36 yards rushing per game. Gave up 91 points in 10 games with 3 shutouts. Held 7 opponents to 10 points or under.
While the '69 team was the best LSU rushing defense ever, their season L was to a dual threat passing lead team with Ole Miss. The '69 team wouldn't be able to keep up with the 2019 team. Imo the only team that could go toe to toe with the 2019 team is the 2006 team.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:51 am to KC Tiger
Not one because non had a QB like Burrow.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:30 am to KC Tiger
Only 1 and that would be the 2007 team. Mobile qb and a badass defense. LsU beat 7 or 8 top 15 teams that year in the final rankings.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:03 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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2011 but I doubt they could beat them. Thei only chance would be to create some turnovers and play keep away with the run game.
This
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:07 pm to blackandgolddude
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I don't think a single one would keep it within 35
What?! So you think the 2nd best LSU team of all time (whoever that is) was not as good as 2019 Clemson, or 2019 Florida, or 2019 Auburn, or 2019 Ole Miss, or ...... WHAT!!!
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:10 pm to Tiger on the Rag
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Only 1 and that would be the 2007 team
I think the 2006 team was better than 2007.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:11 pm to KC Tiger
2011. Very physical in the trenches, fast LB, and elite secondary. They could keep the score lower and still score points. As long as 2019’s defense doesn’t play out of their minds, it would be a close game I think.
I’d assume 2011 would have to ability to shut the run game down completely given how good the D-line was and how average 2019’s O-line was.
I’d assume 2011 would have to ability to shut the run game down completely given how good the D-line was and how average 2019’s O-line was.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:40 pm to KC Tiger
2003 and 2011............
Reason: would like to have seen those two defenses against 2019 offense.
Reason: would like to have seen those two defenses against 2019 offense.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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2006 is the 2nd best team of the modern (2000 onward) era.
Remember when they put up 3 against Auburn? I remember.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Bama wasn't the only team to hold that offense in check
Really? Who else? You CANNOT SAY shite ABOUT FIELD POSITION
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Such a disappointing season les wasted all that wealth
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:A one-dimensional offense isn't necessarily a bad one... look at the opener against Oregon.
2011's offense being so limited gives the opposing defense a lot of leeway. Your argument isn't very logical.
The series where LSU went hurry-up no-huddle, toss dive up the gut. Oregon could NOT stop that, they had to call time out.
Now, go back to LSU-Ole Miss in 2019. Burrow demolished the Ole Miss defense, but Ole Miss raped that LSU defense with the running game. Rhys Plumlee ran us ragged.
2011 had the defense to potentially keep the game in check, and the ground game to move on 2019, and very possibly wear them down.
Like someone else said, it took Alabama with an incredible defense of it's own to beat the 2011 team, and that was a rematch where Bama had the benefit of tweaking what it did, while LSU, as the winner of the first game, didn't have as many clear adjustments. And that rematch wasn't horrible; Bama had to settle for 5 FGs, and only punched it in late in the 4th to seal it. 2019 didn't have the defense that Bama team did, they're not shutting 2011 out. Probably not holding them under 20.
I still think 2019 eventually scores enough to win, but suspect the game would be far more interesting than anyone guesses.
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