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re: Which past LSU team had best chance vs 2019

Posted on 8/2/23 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 2:24 pm to
Everyone acts like the 2011 offense was terrible because they got shut out vs Alabama in national championship and 9 points in regular season. But every other game they put up 30,40,50 points per game except for the miss st game(19)

2011 offense would have scored on 2019 defense. 2019 D gave up 38 to vandy and 37 to a bad ole miss team.

I still think 2019 pulls out the win but its not a blow out like most think it would.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Everyone acts like the 2011 offense was terrible because they got shut out vs Alabama in national championship and 9 points in regular season. But every other game they put up 30,40,50 points per game except for the miss st game(19)


If you go back and categorize points scored in 2011 you will find that a disproportionately large percentage were scored by, or set up by, defense and special teams. That offense was very one dimensional and really not very good. I do think that defensively they would have presented the biggest challenge.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1351 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 2:57 pm to
Yeah that is a good point. I forgot how special teams scored lots of TDs. Plus they were able to run on almost everyone. The one time the running game got shut down they were screwed.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:22 pm to
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Everyone acts like the 2011 offense was terrible because they got shut out vs Alabama in national championship and 9 points in regular season. But every other game they put up 30,40,50 points per game except for the miss st game(19)


They beat UGA 42-10 while being outgained 296 to 237.
The offense went 3 in out on 7 of the 8 first half possessions, and the other drive was a 3 and fumble.
Tyrann returned a punt for a TD right before half.
Tyrann recovered a fumble early in the third to set up an 18 yard td drive.
Tyrann then returned another punt that might have won him the heisman if he got in, which led to a 17 yard TD drive.
Simon intercepts UGA on the next possession.

They looked equally terrible against Ar-Kansas and needed Tyrann to return a punt for a TD before the half to tie it up before running away with the game in the second half.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4917 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Tyrann then returned another punt that might have won him the heisman if he got in


You are correct. The 2nd punt return that he didn't score on was much more impressive than the one he did score on (by the way, pretty sure he dropped the ball before the crossing the goal line on the first return anyway).
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4154 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:32 pm to
Any of Curly’s teams. Them suckas neva backed down from a good brawl.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52144 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 3:44 pm to
‘07 or ‘11, but neither would stand a chance.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40144 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 4:05 pm to
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I think 2011 could keep the score in check the best. But I still think it'd start to balloon out of control towards the end of 3rd or 4th.


No, Alabama showed that team could be picked apart, and nobody on that Alabama offense would have hit the 2 deep on that LSU offense.

Burrow would throw 5 touchdowns.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7450 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 4:45 pm to
None, but gun to my head, I’d take 03 or 06 to have the best chance
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16559 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 5:29 pm to
1958.
Sic the Chinese Bandits on Burrow.
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:02 pm to
You could let the 2003 defense get coached by Saban and that same staff with Kirby and Muschamp, it wouldn’t have any effect on that 2019 team. Burrow,Chase, Jefferson was unstoppable. Lol Matt Mauck led offense would never score enough to beat a team averaging +45pts

Saban has no idea how to stop modern offenses much less the greatest team of all time.

2006 would be interesting but still not good enough to beat Burrow
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29643 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:27 pm to
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2011 but I doubt they could beat them. Thei only chance would be to create some turnovers and play keep away with the run game.

When? Early or late? 2011 and 2006 would have been REALLY HARD on Joe and controlled the line of scrimmage.

Hell 2007 was even better at the LOS on BOTH SIDES. They would have controlled the clock and ran all over that team you saw. Flynn was Mobil enough and Russell had 3 FIRST ROUND receivers AND FAR AND ABOVE BETTER defensive BACKENDS.

2006, 2011 and 2007 would have had an excellent chance to beat that team and that is no disrespect to the 2019 offense. They would not have gotten the ball much and Mo Claiborne, PP7 and company with Badger arguably the best defensive player in LSU history were all world dbs. Their bad dbs were AWESOME.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29643 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:31 pm to
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2006 would be interesting but still not good enough to beat Burrow

Bull shite. 2019 would t have gotten the ball enough…

And every NFL all pro CB and Safety on 2006-2011 dline and Oline would have dominated the LOS.

Y’all think that the Oline was good in 2019, but it was Joe and those CBs were far and above. Egged than ANY LSU faced in 2019. It isn’t even close.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:35 pm to
2003 had the defense to keep it close
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29643 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:42 pm to
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it doesn't take a great D to best them.

Bama 2011 was the best they ever had and was the only team to beat them…
Posted by TigerProphet
Thibodaux, La.
Member since Jan 2021
4232 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:44 pm to
Fiddy 8
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29643 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:50 pm to
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Yeah that is a good point. I forgot how special teams scored lots of TDs. Plus they were able to run on almost everyone. The one time the running game got shut down they were screwed.

It is almost as if you need all three units to play well… Truly great teams are great at all 3 and 2019 while great offensively, wasn’t great at all three. Defense sets up short fields as does ST. It is complimentary football. As I stated elsewhere at what part of the season do they play? 2019 didn’t come close to playing a team like 2”11 or 2006 defensively - NOT REMOTELY CLOSE. Hell, 2018 Clemson dline would have had Joe running for his life because the 2019 offensive line was not good. How many are in the pros?
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12725 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:28 pm to
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None…but I’d take my chances with ‘06.

Probably this.

Might have to add 2011, just because the sheer number of playmakers might give them a puncher's chance (Honey Badger could erupt for 3 PR/Strip & Scoop TDs and Mo could bust a Kickoff return), and that D would be one of the few that could slow down '19.

But we're still talking long odds at best, imo.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12725 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:36 pm to
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Burrow is tough to beat, but if there's a defense that could have done it, it would have been 2003's, and they had the guys in the trenches to make that game a lot more physical than the finesse of the 2019 team would want.

Disagree. How could you make the game physical when Burrow is picking you apart before your blitzers/rushers get there?

"Wearing down" 2019 has basically zero chance; the only hope is fluky big plays that end drives and produce scores out of nowhere to try and keep up. That was the forte of the '11 defense. '03 would never be able to consistently get to Burrow before he found one of his 5 weapons (or just tucked and ran a la vs Clemson). '11 is more likely to get beat 50-0 and lose 95% of the games, but most everyone else is losing 99+% (even if they are keeping it "closer"). '06 is the closest thing we have to another team that could match '19 toe to toe, and they would be near-hopelessly outmatched.

Peak JaMarcus & Co. vs peak Joe B & Co. would be sooooooo fricking exciting, though!

Posted by blackandgolddude
Virginia Beach
Member since Apr 2012
3521 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:38 am to
I don't think a single one would keep it within 35. 2019 LSU and 2001 Miami are on a pedestal. Teams that were just freakishly great and you know that no one else had a chance from the first snap.
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