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re: Where is the relative weakness on this LSU offense?
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:08 am to paper tiger
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:08 am to paper tiger
The only answer is TE with Mason and zero experience behind him. Great post!
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 2:29 pm to RightWingTiger
quote:That's true, ...as long as JD is steamrolling. But if that engine starts to sputter, you can bet your arse that BK taps Nuss, and I don't think he's going to wait more than a couple or three series. Even if/when BK does this, I expect JD to start the following week.
Short of JD getting hurt & being unavailable to play, Nuss will be relegated to mopping up after JD has steamrolled the opponent!
Posted on 8/16/23 at 3:37 pm to paper tiger
1. Daniels' ability to get the ball down the field on time is still in question.
2. Our offensive line's ability to create holes for our backs has not been proven.
These were the two things that held back our offense last season and kept us from being consistent. Until I see otherwise, they are still weaknesses. However, I'm very excited and optimistic. I think that they could both be strengths this year.
2. Our offensive line's ability to create holes for our backs has not been proven.
These were the two things that held back our offense last season and kept us from being consistent. Until I see otherwise, they are still weaknesses. However, I'm very excited and optimistic. I think that they could both be strengths this year.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 3:39 pm to paper tiger
Play Calling.......
Because there is really no weakness I can see. Deep. So if the play calling lacks, that is our weakness on offense.
Because there is really no weakness I can see. Deep. So if the play calling lacks, that is our weakness on offense.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 3:43 pm to leylee
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The only answer is TE with Mason and zero experience behind him. Great post!
Last season was the best season for a TE in LSU history and Mason was a true fresh 15 pounds lighter than he is today, and we had no P5 worthy TE behind him.
This year we have 4 P5 worthy TE behind him.
The answer is still Daniels. His limitations were clear last year. If he can close those up a bit, this offense doesn't have a weakness, relative or significant.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 3:49 pm to paper tiger
Without question it is QB.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 3:58 pm to coachbleu
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2. Our offensive line's ability to create holes for our backs has not been proven.
LSU was statistically one of the best run blocking teams in the country. I guess based on the numbers and the lack of explosive plays you could justify that the offensive line struggled at making it to the 2nd level.
Here are the offensive line analytics from last year. Football Outsiders Offensive Line Stats
LSU was one of the best run blocking teams in the country at the line. 1st in the nation in Stuff rate and Line Yards per Carry.
Line Yards per Carry: the line gets credit for rushing yardage between 0-3 yards (instead of 0-4) and 50% credit for yards 4-8 (instead of 5-10). Anything over 8 yards is quantified as a highlight opportunity, and credit goes to the runner. As with the pro definition, lost yardage still counts for 125%. (Garbage time is filtered out for all line yardage averages.)
Stuff Rate: Same as STUFFED on the NFL side -- percentage of carries by running backs that are stopped at or before the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 4:04 pm to paper tiger
Daniels is the weak spot, Nuss should be the starter.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 4:23 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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LSU was statistically one of the best run blocking teams in the country. I guess based on the numbers and the lack of explosive plays you could justify that the offensive line struggled at making it to the 2nd level.
Here are the offensive line analytics from last year. Football Outsiders Offensive Line Stats
LSU was one of the best run blocking teams in the country at the line. 1st in the nation in Stuff rate and Line Yards per Carry.
Those numbers include Daniels running. Perhaps I should have said "running backs" instead of just saying "backs". I don't think that the Tigers were very good at opening up holes for our running backs last year. I'm hopeful that will improve this season. I also believe that if Daniels can release the ball on time to downfield targets, it will open up our running game that much more.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 4:46 pm to Cuz413
quote:That's an overstated concern...quote:
Well it doesn’t look like qb is a weak spot
Let me know when he can consistently complete passes over the middle and hit WRs in stride.
if you go back and watch the early games, Daniels was hitting Boutte in stride. Boutte just wasn't catching the ball.
That threw the entire offense off schedule, because Boutte was the no-doubt focus of the passing game. And it wasn't like losing Boutte to another injury, and you shift everyone over; they kept him in and kept trying to feed him, trying to work him back into the game. Because, as we know, Boutte when good was All American level.
I think Nussmeier looked more decisive at times, because I believe he was on the field more with some of the 2's, guys he was used to practicing with. And the guys he focused on in practice were a) not as critical in scheme as Boutte was, and b) not dropping and otherwise out of sorts as much.
All that is gone this year. Daniels is going into this season with Nabers as his sure #1, Taylor at TE as a comfortable option, and familiarity with the other guys now.
My "relative weakness" for this team is the RB group. It might be deep, but there's not 1 guy who's emerged as the man yet, that can take over a game. Williams is dependable, but underwhelming. Emery is spectacular at times, and wildly inconsistent with ball security. Cain is a step slow, Goodwin got hurt just as he started to stand out, everyone just is a question mark.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 5:01 pm to Scoob
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My "relative weakness" for this team is the RB group. It might be deep, but there's not 1 guy who's emerged as the man yet, that can take over a game.
That's fair, but we might not even need that.
This could turn out to be a better version of the 2011 rushing offense.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 5:32 pm to Scoob
Diggs will be the man at rb
Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:29 pm to paper tiger
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LSU picked up three really good freshman tight ends for depth. Pimpton and Markway both had big time offer sheets.
Looking like Pimpton might be a go to guy if he shows he can catch in real time game. He is lighting it up in practice and is a match up nightmare with his height/reach/catch radius. LSU coaches are salivating over him especially for RZ.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:31 pm to paper tiger
Unproven depth at TE. It will all be fine but it is unproven.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 7:09 am to GetmorewithLes
quote:Fans were disappointed when we didn't sign Harbor who signed with South Carolina. I'm gonna say it now. I think Pimpton ends up the better player.
Looking like Pimpton might be a go to guy
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:16 pm to Scoob
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if you go back and watch the early games, Daniels was hitting Boutte in stride.
Bs. Early in the season, Daniels couldn't see a wide open receiver, ten yards in front of him.
He couldn't throw a receiver open if the game depended on it.
Hopefully he has improved. Our success depends on it.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:47 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
So you already know Duce and Zy won’t be any good?
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:51 pm to wadewilson
Who did you cast your vote for in the ALL SEC team this year, because it’s obvious you didn’t help make the odds for Heisman bets which JD5 has the 3rd best odds, some of you are just insufferable miserable pessimists
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:15 pm to Sissidog02
Read it again.
And when the best QB in the SEC is KJ Jefferson, that's a fricking low bar.
And when the best QB in the SEC is KJ Jefferson, that's a fricking low bar.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:19 pm to paper tiger
RBs maybe need a tad bit more high end talent, but Daniels in a weird way will be a strength and possibly a weakness. He has to push the ball down the field consistently through the year. We would sputter at times because he wasn't trusting his reads and defenses crept up.
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