re: When will JJ be accepted by our fans?

JJ is blamed for many shortcomings which are evident in his QB play, but are not really all his responsibility. Yes, I would love to have a QB who is a true leader, and makes good decisions, and I think maybe someday we will. However, JJ's shortcomings are almost solely the responsibility of his coaches. His immaturity is something that has to be coached out, just like any other up-and-coming QB. Talent is only part of the equation. This one falls on the QBs coach, and on Crowton and Miles (as the executive in charge of making sure things get done).

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see its backwards shite like this that make me wish your mom wasnt such a whore and wouldve told ur father(her brother) to leave her alone for the night

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you have a dirty mouth son and either you are his brother, cousin, mom, dad, kinfolk and you are at the truth?

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JJ does not want to run the ball with his bum ankle.
I blame the coaches for asking him to do it, with his injury.
A lot of his woes can be attributed to the OL and play calling, plus the lack of discipline overall, that speaks directly to coaching.

That being said, he holds the ball way too long.

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I don't think anyone has a problem with JJ as a person, with his skin color, or his desire as an athlete. The problem is his development as a Division 1 SEC quarterback, which I think most agree is still very raw. The kid is the 2nd youngest QB in the SEC, and has some maturing to do. Having said that, the Offensive Minds and teachers we have at LSU have not, and continue to refuse to adapt to the cards they have been dealt. Crowton's play calling @ Ole Piss is the exclamation point which accentuates my reasoning.
1) Option Plays, Roll Outs, and naked bootlegs with a QB on one wheel.
2) The lack of coordination of personnel on certain situations.
3) The predictability of plays called with certain personnel packages
4) The elimination of quick pass plays with a constant collapsing inferior line pocket.
5) The entire last drive of the Ole Piss game

I have NEVER coached football a day in my life, and I know what is being run before the ball is snapped 70% of the time. This is not JJ's fault. The best players with all of the raw talent, still need to be coached at the end of the day. The Manning Bros., Brees, Favre, all had excellent instruction along the way. THIS is the problem.

I'll take it one step further. All of the Pick "6"'s JLee threw last year, can partially be attributed to "telegraphing" his throws. No one has mentioned the fact that had the offense not been so predictable, defenses may not have been in the position to make so many of the plays. JMHO FWIW

About the same time Miles is considered a good coach.

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WHEN
JJ is blamed for many shortcomings which are evident in his QB play, but are not really all his responsibility. Yes, I would love to have a QB who is a true leader, and makes good decisions, and I think maybe someday we will. However, JJ's shortcomings are almost solely the responsibility of his coaches. His immaturity is something that has to be coached out, just like any other up-and-coming QB. Talent is only part of the equation. This one falls on the QBs coach, and on Crowton and Miles (as the executive in charge of making sure things get done).

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you can coach it but it takes experience to implement what's been taught. JJ does not have a natural understanding of the game thus will get better with live reps. JJ had to be micromanaged this year.This led to confusion and delay of game penalties.

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Absolutely. Next to Jamarcus, he's a goddam rocket scientist.

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at least jamarcus could hit a slant route in stride...at least he could when he was in college..

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Poor JJ. He is abused by so many. He is a below average quarterback. He doesn't know how to read for any type option play, does not understand how to fake, cannot step up in the pocket, is afraid to take a hit, can't look past the first receiver, can't hit a guy out of the backfield in stride, but, other than that he is a good QB that will take us to unseen heights.

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You ever thought that maybe we don't have a running game b/c no one is afraid of our QB's passing.
he's inaccaurate, yes i said that and don't give me his completion %, he rarely puts in the vicinity of the chest.
if you were watching the game at the end, he threw a ball to Peterson i think that was very high and peterson barely got his hands on it and it was almost picked off, that would have been ball game. the ball he threw at lafell when he got hurt was on the ground. he seemed to overthrow every pass in the 1st half of the ole miss game.
he's terrible at throwing the ball deep.
why would anyone be afraid of his passing, you know if you get to him he will take the sack b/c he's afraid to throw a pick and he has no pocket awareness or escape ability.

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The Truth Hurts...

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You are kidding, right? Fans want winners. He is not a winner. He lacks the primary skills necessary to QB a major college team. As BBA said, there are a number of white QB's who have been skewered in the past. Drop the ridiculous racism angle.

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Damn, ouch...yep...truth still hurts...

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I'm not sayin jj doesnt from time to time lock on. But he doesnt all the time. If that were the case the rj jackson wouldnt have a catch all season.

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Ever think that that play was suppose to go to the 4th receiver? just a thought...Crowton says it all the time...

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His football smarts are what's lacking...like not knowing when to get out of bounds, not understanding the importance of not taking a freakin' sack, not realizing that staring down your receivers isn't good and not checking off to other options when his first read is covered.

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Ding ding ding....what do we have for our winner Bobby? And Might I add he'll never have football smarts...Those are skills...quick thinking...its a skill..

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Wow, the people blaming it on race blow my mind. He has three NFL receivers (all three will be taken in the first 2 rounds), 2 NFL caliber tailbacks, and an NFL caliber TE. Hmmm, I don't think people are saying "Wow look at that NFL caliber QB down at LSU." The fact is that this offense was handcuffed by his lack of development. Was this the coaches' fault? Perhaps. But what I do know is that JJ is no longer "inexperienced." He has 13 career starts and has been the #1 on the depth chart for over a year.

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God-D**n I couldnt have said it better myself...

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at least jamarcus could hit a slant route in stride...at least he could when he was in college..

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Count for me the number of times that SLU ran slant routes this year. Next, count for me how many times LSU completed the slant route. After that, go edit your post (what I quoted) to read something that approaches the truth.

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He doesn't know how to read for any type option play, does not understand how to fake, cannot step up in the pocket, is afraid to take a hit, can't look past the first receiver, can't hit a guy out of the backfield in stride, but, other than that he is a good QB that will take us to unseen heights.

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Yes, every option play we ran this year that failed had everything to do with JJ's ability to read the DE. Sure. One of his primary problems IS his inability to step up in the pocket. However, to watch the second half of the Arkansas game, you'd never know it. Either that was an anomaly or it proves that he CAN learn to do it. Take your pick. His "fear" of taking a hit also led to him keeping drives alive this year vis-a-vis escaping a potential sack and turning it into yardage. He does have a problem locking onto his primary receiver, I agree. Again, I think that can be coached somewhat. Finally, your assertion about the swing pass out of the backfield is, like the other guy's slant comment, wholly untrue.

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he's inaccaurate, yes i said that and don't give me his completion %, he rarely puts in the vicinity of the chest. if you were watching the game at the end, he threw a ball to Peterson i think that was very high and peterson barely got his hands on it and it was almost picked off, that would have been ball game. the ball he threw at lafell when he got hurt was on the ground. he seemed to overthrow every pass in the 1st half of the ole miss game.

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So you use 2 examples to counter a season-long stat? I simply cannot even make up how dumb some of you are.

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you know if you get to him he will take the sack b/c he's afraid to throw a pick and he has no pocket awareness or escape ability.

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Wow! Like I said, I simply CANNOT make up how dumb some posters on the Rant are.

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You are kidding, right? Fans want winners. He is not a winner. He lacks the primary skills necessary to QB a major college team. As BBA said, there are a number of white QB's who have been skewered in the past. Drop the ridiculous racism angle.

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Yeah, he's not a winner...and it's not obvious at all that you don't know what in the frick you're talking about.



He has a winning record at the QB position, dipshit.

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Ever think that that play was suppose to go to the 4th receiver? just a thought...Crowton says it all the time...

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So, your assumption is that JJ hasn't ever thrown to anyone but the primary receiver on a play?

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His football smarts are what's lacking...like not knowing when to get out of bounds, not understanding the importance of not taking a freakin' sack, not realizing that staring down your receivers isn't good and not checking off to other options when his first read is covered.

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They can also be improved through coaching as well. The implication that's made here is that they can't.

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Wow, the people blaming it on race blow my mind. He has three NFL receivers (all three will be taken in the first 2 rounds), 2 NFL caliber tailbacks, and an NFL caliber TE. Hmmm, I don't think people are saying "Wow look at that NFL caliber QB down at LSU." The fact is that this offense was handcuffed by his lack of development. Was this the coaches' fault? Perhaps. But what I do know is that JJ is no longer "inexperienced." He has 13 career starts and has been the #1 on the depth chart for over a year.

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3 NFL receivers who, in their own right, didn't always help JJ out, whether it be through drops or not coming back to the QB. Not all the time, mind you, but it did happen this year. 2 NFL HB's who, in their own right, struggled due to a porous O-line. I guess JJ should now be blamed for not helping with the run blocking. Oh, and they (any of them) weren't too good at all with pass blocking. And that NFL-caliber TE? JJ hit him quite a few times this year. More often than not though, he was at the line trying to keep off the invading horde of defenders.

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Why weren't you here last year fighting this good fight for JL???

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Who?

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Really!......Jarrett LEe

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I meant "who were you directing the question to".