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re: What’s your QB depth chart?
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:52 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:52 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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He doesn’t have the it factor
This fricking phrase
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Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:53 am to G&P
Do some people really think BK is going to start a player
with hardly any experience at QB.Nuss has alot of potential
but come the 1st game it will be MB or JD.
with hardly any experience at QB.Nuss has alot of potential
but come the 1st game it will be MB or JD.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:55 am to abellsujr
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What if Nuss transfers? What then for 2023? Daniels? RS Freshman Walker? Makes things kind of tough. Considering 2022 is a non contender year, I’m not sure I let Nuss walk at all costs.
Seriously doubt Kelly thinks like that. You play who you need to play to give you a better chance to win now. You recruit who you need to recruit to win in the future.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:03 am to RandomGuy
Strictly off of the spring game, I'd go:
Nuss - who I'd least want to face as an opponent
Daniels - not a huge fan due to his inaccuracy, but I think he gives you a different look that defenses would have to account for, and he'd be first off the bench.
Brennan - still looks shaky in the pocket; however, he did miss the entire fall, so by the time fall camp ends, I wouldn't be shocked if he's playing much better.
Howard - too early to tell. There were walk-on WRs and Oline in for almost every snap he got. I liked his arm during the pre-game. He made every throw look easy but did have some accuracy issues—better athlete than most think.
Nuss - who I'd least want to face as an opponent
Daniels - not a huge fan due to his inaccuracy, but I think he gives you a different look that defenses would have to account for, and he'd be first off the bench.
Brennan - still looks shaky in the pocket; however, he did miss the entire fall, so by the time fall camp ends, I wouldn't be shocked if he's playing much better.
Howard - too early to tell. There were walk-on WRs and Oline in for almost every snap he got. I liked his arm during the pre-game. He made every throw look easy but did have some accuracy issues—better athlete than most think.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:29 am to RandomGuy
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3.) Brennan -Has a cannon but doesn’t throw the deep with a lot of accuracy.
This is where your thread loses credibility. Throwing the deep ball accurately might be Brennan’s only plus.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:31 am to RandomGuy
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3.) Brennan
-Has a cannon but doesn’t throw the deep with a lot of accuracy.
You lost all credibility with this post. This is what Brennan does best.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:32 am to skullhawk
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Brennan - still looks shaky in the pocket
I agree. How do fans not see this??
He’s a SIXTH year guy…if he’s not comfortable by now, I doubt he’ll ever figure it out. Btw…his uneasiness in the pocket was in a spring game with hardly any fans.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:38 am to skullhawk
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Daniels - not a huge fan due to his inaccuracy, but I think he gives you a different look that defenses would have to account for, and he'd be first off the bench.
A weak passing / quick to run look? Any defense would bring in an extra safety to spy the QB. You wouldn't even use a LB since he isn't particularly big. Rush 3 or 4 and challenge him to pass into coverage. Probably the easiest QB to prepare for of the group.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 10:01 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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This is where your thread loses credibility. Throwing the deep ball accurately might be Brennan’s only plus.
He threw 2 deep ones I believe on Saturday and underthrew both.
One was completed but under thrown
Posted on 4/25/22 at 1:06 pm to RandomGuy
1 Nuss
2 Brennan
3 Howard
IMO, Daniels should do like Shepard and switch to WR.
He could have a great career at WR. He is awesome in the open field.
My opinion is based on the spring game only. Coach Kelley sees them everyday so I will second his decision.
I wish all four success in however it is decided
2 Brennan
3 Howard
IMO, Daniels should do like Shepard and switch to WR.
He could have a great career at WR. He is awesome in the open field.
My opinion is based on the spring game only. Coach Kelley sees them everyday so I will second his decision.
I wish all four success in however it is decided
Posted on 4/25/22 at 1:19 pm to Gus007
Daniels can definitely throw the ball better than Shepard. He could be a productive SEC QB in a specific system in his current state. Could he be a championship QB? Not in his current state imo. NFL? Not in his current state.
If Daniels was all we had, then possibly our OC would make efforts to compose an offense he can be very productive in down in and down out. But we have the luxury to not have to do that.
If Daniels was all we had, then possibly our OC would make efforts to compose an offense he can be very productive in down in and down out. But we have the luxury to not have to do that.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 1:20 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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He’s had multiple QBs come through and play over him.
Burrow was pretty high standard to overcome.
If Daniels, Nuss, or Howard can meet that threshold, I'm fine.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 1:29 pm to RandomGuy
Based on the Spring Game:
1- Nussmeier:By far the most polished of the four QB's. He can make every throw you need and then some, plus has enough mobility to escape pressure and run for free yards. Should be a strong QB1 candidate through fall camp unless he melts down.
2- Myles:Not the most popular guy since he is a veteran holdover from the previous era, but Myles has shown a lot of growth under Kelly and Denbrock. His arm is as big as ever and he is an imposing frame standing in the pocket, a far cry from the lanky freshman he used to be. He also has experience starting in the SEC. He tends to hold the ball too long, but that may have been due to vanilla play calls and receivers not getting open. Mobility will be another issue, as Myles is a prototype pocket passer that doesn't move much in or out of the pocket. He can succeed, but everyone around him needs to be A+.
3- Daniels:The most mobile of the four QBs that are vying for that starting job, but also the biggest wild card. He looked the worst when throwing the ball, but raised some eyebrows with his speed when forced to run. Daniels has Power 5 starting experience, although one could argue that the PAC-12 is far from the SEC in terms of defensive speed and physicality. Definitely a dark horse moving forward.
4- Howard:Young and inexperienced would be the best way to describe Howard right now. He definitely has the physical tools with his arm and mobility, but he has a lot of growing up to do before he is able to lead an offense at this level. Very inconsistent under pressure as a passer, and second guesses his read progression a lot. Doesn't inspire players around him and make them perform better. He'll likely take a red shirt in 2022 and then compete for the QB1 job in the future.
1- Nussmeier:By far the most polished of the four QB's. He can make every throw you need and then some, plus has enough mobility to escape pressure and run for free yards. Should be a strong QB1 candidate through fall camp unless he melts down.
2- Myles:Not the most popular guy since he is a veteran holdover from the previous era, but Myles has shown a lot of growth under Kelly and Denbrock. His arm is as big as ever and he is an imposing frame standing in the pocket, a far cry from the lanky freshman he used to be. He also has experience starting in the SEC. He tends to hold the ball too long, but that may have been due to vanilla play calls and receivers not getting open. Mobility will be another issue, as Myles is a prototype pocket passer that doesn't move much in or out of the pocket. He can succeed, but everyone around him needs to be A+.
3- Daniels:The most mobile of the four QBs that are vying for that starting job, but also the biggest wild card. He looked the worst when throwing the ball, but raised some eyebrows with his speed when forced to run. Daniels has Power 5 starting experience, although one could argue that the PAC-12 is far from the SEC in terms of defensive speed and physicality. Definitely a dark horse moving forward.
4- Howard:Young and inexperienced would be the best way to describe Howard right now. He definitely has the physical tools with his arm and mobility, but he has a lot of growing up to do before he is able to lead an offense at this level. Very inconsistent under pressure as a passer, and second guesses his read progression a lot. Doesn't inspire players around him and make them perform better. He'll likely take a red shirt in 2022 and then compete for the QB1 job in the future.
This post was edited on 4/25/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 4/25/22 at 1:39 pm to mmcgrath
quote:If you have talented receivers and your QB has a strong arm, you can have a lot of production against that. Especially if your qb can throw with decent accuracy over the top. And especially if they’re having to pull the safety to spy.
A weak passing / quick to run look? Any defense would bring in an extra safety to spy the QB. You wouldn't even use a LB since he isn't particularly big. Rush 3 or 4 and challenge him to pass into coverage. Probably the easiest QB to prepare for of the group.
However, if you have a guy who you think has the ability to do more expansive things, you may want to do that. Even if he can’t be as effective in some of those above aspects (doesn’t require as much running attention, etc). It’s just a matter of what you think is best for the team overall and what you think can be the most productive overall. And in all honesty, that may change based on different defenses we play. We see that a lot.
But I do know they are attempting to tweak some of Daniels mechanical techniques. And they let him try and run some things in the spring game he’s not as good at or comfortable doing. So they are trying to expand his abilities. It may work. It may not.
This post was edited on 4/25/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/25/22 at 1:44 pm to RandomGuy
Brennan
Nussmeier
Daniels
Howard
But things are always evolving. This is based on what I saw and combining Kelly's comments after the game. It's clear they favor Brennan in what he can do and his experience. Nussmeier put on a show of sorts but you know he's the one who will take more risks as well so one day he could look like this the next have a 2-3 pick game quite easily, it's nice to see he wants to shed that gunslinger mentality though. Today's game is so much about high completion percentage and being efficient rather than big risk taking, low percentage passes.
Daniels looked like a guy who had been here for a month basically. Erratic throwing the ball, very very good athlete and even if he doesnt win the job he should have a role coming in 5-10 times a game even.
Howard was just limited this spring with his thumb injury and then basically we really didnt get see much from him in the game. It's clear they want the redshirt on him and he wants that too. He basically got 1 drive with the 2s and then a couple more with walk ons mostly it seemed while the 3 other QBs got drives primarily with the 1s and 2s.
Nussmeier
Daniels
Howard
But things are always evolving. This is based on what I saw and combining Kelly's comments after the game. It's clear they favor Brennan in what he can do and his experience. Nussmeier put on a show of sorts but you know he's the one who will take more risks as well so one day he could look like this the next have a 2-3 pick game quite easily, it's nice to see he wants to shed that gunslinger mentality though. Today's game is so much about high completion percentage and being efficient rather than big risk taking, low percentage passes.
Daniels looked like a guy who had been here for a month basically. Erratic throwing the ball, very very good athlete and even if he doesnt win the job he should have a role coming in 5-10 times a game even.
Howard was just limited this spring with his thumb injury and then basically we really didnt get see much from him in the game. It's clear they want the redshirt on him and he wants that too. He basically got 1 drive with the 2s and then a couple more with walk ons mostly it seemed while the 3 other QBs got drives primarily with the 1s and 2s.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 1:59 pm to wadewilson
quote:Kelly is definitely thinking about transfers. Both incoming and outgoing. Is he concerned about the 2023 QB situation? I don’t think so. Why? Because I think he’ll know who will most likely be the starter for 2023 before the end of the 2022 season. And I think it will be apparent to everyone too. Who it will be, I have no idea. But even if Brennan is the guy this season, we’ll have a good idea of who the guy will be next season as well.
Seriously doubt Kelly thinks like that. You play who you need to play to give you a better chance to win now. You recruit who you need to recruit to win in the future.
This post was edited on 4/25/22 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 4/25/22 at 2:23 pm to tigerspin
Myles
Nuss
Howard
Jayden
Myles looked best all around, and was the only one who actually went through his reads and progressions. Consistently hit the high percentage pass when open, and best at game management and sustained drives.
Nuss looked great, but I think the Spring Game format suits his style - slinging downfield deep balls. No pass rush, no pressure from sacks, no reads. Multiple times the underneath route and first read was open, but he instantly pulled the trigger on the deep ball if there was 1 on 1 coverage. But, WOW! He threw some beautiful bombs.
Howard looked like a freshmen and will benefit from a redshirt.
Jayden was inaccurate and lacked consistency. He made good reads, then missed wide open guys. The read option told us nothing, as the defense couldn't tackle the QB and didn't even bother to defend the QB keeper.
Of course, Jayden looked better than Howard. But if I were to choose one QB to transfer, and there WILL BE a QB transfer, I'd have to pick Jayden at this point.
Nuss
Howard
Jayden
Myles looked best all around, and was the only one who actually went through his reads and progressions. Consistently hit the high percentage pass when open, and best at game management and sustained drives.
Nuss looked great, but I think the Spring Game format suits his style - slinging downfield deep balls. No pass rush, no pressure from sacks, no reads. Multiple times the underneath route and first read was open, but he instantly pulled the trigger on the deep ball if there was 1 on 1 coverage. But, WOW! He threw some beautiful bombs.
Howard looked like a freshmen and will benefit from a redshirt.
Jayden was inaccurate and lacked consistency. He made good reads, then missed wide open guys. The read option told us nothing, as the defense couldn't tackle the QB and didn't even bother to defend the QB keeper.
Of course, Jayden looked better than Howard. But if I were to choose one QB to transfer, and there WILL BE a QB transfer, I'd have to pick Jayden at this point.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 2:27 pm to IM_4_LSU
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You lost all credibility with this post. This is what Brennan does best.
This is where you show how much you don’t know. Being able to throw the ball far isn’t all there is bro. There is zero touch on his vertical passes. All brute with decent timing. No touch.
The corner route that Nuss threw that Jaray Jenkins dropped is what separates him from everyone else. Myles can’t do that.
In baseball terms, all he has is a fastball. It’s a great one, but that’s all he got.
This post was edited on 4/25/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 4/25/22 at 2:44 pm to RandomGuy
If you go back and watch the spring game the defense played man the entire time with two different fronts, all nuss did was do what miss st did to LSU in 2020.
And he made some bad reads too, on the play where jaray was injured, he had a wide open Malik underneath.
Kelly and denbrock have both said multiple times they want a qb that's gonna get the ball to the playmakers and let them be the runner.
And he made some bad reads too, on the play where jaray was injured, he had a wide open Malik underneath.
Kelly and denbrock have both said multiple times they want a qb that's gonna get the ball to the playmakers and let them be the runner.
This post was edited on 4/25/22 at 2:45 pm
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