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re: What's Venables gonna do that 14 others haven't tried....
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:08 am to tiger81
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:08 am to tiger81
HE is going to try and disguise what he is doing and he will mix it up. He'll try to bring pressure too.
It will boil down to 2 things -
1.) Can we identify where the pressure is coming from and get it blocked.
2.) Can Joe stay patient. If we get their pass rush blocked and stay patient, Joe will find the open receiver.
Regardless of what anyone says, this game is about the LSU defense.
Can they get after Trevor Lawrence?
Can they get the 1 or 2 turnovers?
Can they slow down the Clemson running game?
Go back and look at the box scores for almost every game we've played this year. The LSU defense has played 1 really good half of defense in almost all of them.
So unless Clemson holds LSU to 14-17 points (with 5 or 6 sacks and 2-3 turnovers), the story of this game should come down to LSU's defense standing up.
It will boil down to 2 things -
1.) Can we identify where the pressure is coming from and get it blocked.
2.) Can Joe stay patient. If we get their pass rush blocked and stay patient, Joe will find the open receiver.
Regardless of what anyone says, this game is about the LSU defense.
Can they get after Trevor Lawrence?
Can they get the 1 or 2 turnovers?
Can they slow down the Clemson running game?
Go back and look at the box scores for almost every game we've played this year. The LSU defense has played 1 really good half of defense in almost all of them.
So unless Clemson holds LSU to 14-17 points (with 5 or 6 sacks and 2-3 turnovers), the story of this game should come down to LSU's defense standing up.
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:08 am to tiger81
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What's Venables gonna do that 14 others haven't tried.
Bama could have said the same thing last year going into the championship. I'm not saying we are going to lose, but there's more to it than dumbing down this came to that statement.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:13 am to WHS
Clemson will try to do what they did to tua last year. Show one thing and right before the snap switch to something else. Difference is that Clemson's dline is absolutely nowhere near what Auburn or Florida's is or what it was last year.
LSU and Burrow are ready for this D.
LSU and Burrow are ready for this D.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:16 am to tiger81
There won't be anything Clemson can do that Brady hasn't seen from his time in the NFL, where literally the greatest football minds reside. There's always an answer, and we'll find it. If they're able to get pressure with 4, they have a shot. God damn I love being confident in this offense.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:16 am to Rb52224
quote:There isn't anything that Burrow/Brady/Ensminger haven't seen (and know how to counter it) by now.
I expect Venables to dial something up that Burrow has not seen on film before
The same can't be said about Venables. He hasn't seen an offense with a qb like Burrow, because there isn't another one.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:19 am to RealityTiger
We are going to vary our snap counts and catch them flat footed a few times.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:19 am to tiger81
People talk about pre-snap reads but after all the analysis I've seen, it seems that post-snap reads by the receivers and Burrow in coordination have been the real killer for opposing defenses this year.
If that's the case, I think Venables will show inside or outside leverage on the slot and have the LB or CB on that side ready to jump the option, and he's going to shade his safety to the slot side to provide cover for the player jumping the route.
Then he's going to put Simmons covering the TE on the other side.
They're probably going to concede short throws to CEH until we get to the red zone.
Anybody who thinks this will be easy for LSU is crazy, IMO.
If that's the case, I think Venables will show inside or outside leverage on the slot and have the LB or CB on that side ready to jump the option, and he's going to shade his safety to the slot side to provide cover for the player jumping the route.
Then he's going to put Simmons covering the TE on the other side.
They're probably going to concede short throws to CEH until we get to the red zone.
Anybody who thinks this will be easy for LSU is crazy, IMO.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:21 am to StTiger
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Clemson will try to do what they did to tua last year. Show one thing and right before the snap switch to something else. Difference is that Clemson's dline is absolutely nowhere near what Auburn or Florida's is or what it was last year.
That's the problem. They can't create guys out of thin air.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:21 am to uway
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If that's the case, I think Venables will show inside or outside leverage on the slot and have the LB or CB on that side ready to jump the option, and he's going to shade his safety to the slot side to provide cover for the player jumping the route.
If you've thought of this, don't you think the men who assembled one of the greatest college football offenses has, too? They'll be ready.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:21 am to tiger81
1. Pre- snap look wont be the coverage... so when we put a receiver in motion across the backfield to identify man coverage don’t be surprised if they show a zone look but at the snap revert to man coverage
2. They will work hard to take away the field between the hashmarks... expect some downline man to take a step and then drop to the short zone in the middle. That will force them into a battle on the outside which they think they can win with their corners
3. Pray harder than the other 14 defensive coordinators. Lol
2. They will work hard to take away the field between the hashmarks... expect some downline man to take a step and then drop to the short zone in the middle. That will force them into a battle on the outside which they think they can win with their corners
3. Pray harder than the other 14 defensive coordinators. Lol
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:24 am to Rb52224
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Burrow has not seen on film before
Last years Bama game they showed it all defensively
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:28 am to choupiquesushi
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opefully venables still has his D looking to the sidelines a lot between snaps and LSU catches em off guard a few times.
Good point. I could definitely see LSU copy that Tua --> Smith TD "trick play" if they do it enough. So simple but if Clemson opens themselves up to it, why not?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:30 am to Spelt it rong
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If you've thought of this, don't you think the men who assembled one of the greatest college football offenses has, too? They'll be ready.
Of course they have, but they aren't going to abandon the option routes, and Joe will have to make quick decisions under pressure. We have done great with that all year, but Clemson probably has the best combination of smart players and coaches we've seen all year, and they aren't going to let us beat them uncontested with our bread and butter.
I'm not trying to downplay how great our offense has been. But we also shouldn't downplay how difficult it is to read defenses and throw it in tight windows. If we light up this defense, you can go ahead and cement Joe and this offense as the all-time GOAT in CFB.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:35 am to 225Tyga
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Gana try to get pressure with 4, spy RB out the backfield and man up on the outsides.
They can't get pressure on Burrow just with four. Their front four isn't dynamic enough. Clemson is going to have to blitz to get pressure on Burrow and when they do that, Burrow will eat them alive.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:37 am to Rb52224
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Every team has given Burrow different looks except for Oklahoma and we all know how that turned out. I expect Venables to dial something up that Burrow has not seen on film before but it will not matter because Burrow truly is an NFL QB in college.
By this time of the season, Burrow has seen it all.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:44 am to tiger81
Clemsons only chance of stopping Burrow is to stay on offense and keep him off the field.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:45 am to Rb52224
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I expect Venables to dial something up that Burrow has not seen on film before
I don’t think he’s going to have anything unique, because that probably doesn’t exist. He’ll just keep changing the look and disguising. Auburn did the best job of this. Pre snap they had 7 guys milling around, and Joe could not get a good read.
If I was Venables I would get my best physical safety to bully Marshall at the line. I would try to take Marshall (or whoever the WR3 is) out of the play. And I would do the same with Moss. Then I would play cover two over Jefferson and Chase. And I would rush four with man on CEH. If CEH blocks I’d rush the fifth guy.
This would give one on ones with CEH, Marshall and Moss, which are tough assignments. I would not do this every down, because LSU would just rub Marshall and Moss, but I’d mix it in about 40% of the time.
If he has some athletic DEs I might try to rush three with one being the nose and the other two being blitzers from the same side. Try to get an overload with three rushers, and drop the DEs into short zones. Burrow would rape them if he diagnosed it, but maybe they could catch him off guard a few times.
These are high risk defensive gambles, but against LSU I’d take them. What matters against LSU is not how many big plays you give up, it’s how many stops you get.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:46 am to tiger81
Looking at their talent on defense, I don't think there is anything special or that LSU hasn't seen before that they can do to stop LSU's offense. I also don't think they are as good as LSU on defense currently because in the last three games, their defense has given up 100 yards more of total offense per game.
To win this game, LSU's defense is going to have to get some stops and Joe Burrow and company are going to have to play lights out.
To win this game, LSU's defense is going to have to get some stops and Joe Burrow and company are going to have to play lights out.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:48 am to Dale3
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Clemsons only chance of stopping Burrow is to stay on offense and keep him off the field.
Pretty sure they're going to have to punt or kick it to us eventually.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:53 am to tiger81
He will try what other have, with the belief that he has better, faster, and more disciplined athletes. To me that's the question, does he have more better, faster, and more disciplined athletes than the other 14?
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