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re: What’s the bigger mistake by Woodward?
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:56 am to Ampipe96
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:56 am to Ampipe96
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At this school to coach basketball you have to have a dynamic personality to sell the program.
I 100% agree with this. Which is why i think keeping McMahon on another year is a waste of resources.
I agree also agree that buying him better players will likely increase performance.
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:58 am to Ampipe96
It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see if a coach is optimizing his roster. McMahon has not come close to that. He and his staff are straight up lost
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:28 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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LSU brass never really supported Wade when he was here. Why didn’t we have a bag man? Other schools do, also promises were made to Wade when he was hired that was never fulfilled
Pre-NIL, head coaches used to have a guy on their staff that handled all of that. That’s on Wade more than the administration for not having an assistant locked in to be the fall guy. The administration didn’t need to know specifics about that any more than the head coach should once the bag man was in place and doing his necessary work.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:49 am to Strannix
And for some reason there is a group of LSU fans who are all OK with Wades dismissal. and they seem to have this weird disdain for Wade. I love the guy! Basketball was fun with him. Not anymore not anytime soon.
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 9:58 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:04 am to Ampipe96
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Hiring McMahon at all,
Not so much the hire, but the stupid azz contract. NO reason that buyout should be so much for an unproven coach like that. 5 year max, lower buyout, then extend him if he starts winning.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:12 am to Ampipe96
Hiring him was fine. The problem is fat Woodward has no idea how to negotiate a contract and gave him an insane buyout that we currently are stuck with
Only a fat loser would give an unproven coach that buyout
Only a fat loser would give an unproven coach that buyout
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:14 am to MasterofTigerBait
quote:yep. Which is why Will Wade was such a home run hire and people like Trent Johnson were such a dud
At this school to coach basketball you have to have a dynamic personality to sell the program.
I cannot believe how badly our fat AD screwed up the basketball program
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:26 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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Why didn’t we have a bag man? Other schools do,
Even Dale had Johnny Jones at one time.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:28 am to Ampipe96
i will wade 4 U
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:33 am to Jimclark
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Basketball was fun with him. Not anymore not anytime soon.
This is 100% the answer.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:59 am to Jimclark
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weird disdain for Wade.
Most of the disdain is for the posters that have turned this board into the “Will Wade Rant”. That and the posters that claim “you don’t know ball” if you don’t agree with them.
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:44 am to MasterofTigerBait
At the time, hiring McMahon wasn't a mistake.
The lack of NIL funding is BS floated by the AD to justify the ACTUAL mistake....continuing on with McMahon despite the fact it is abundantly clear he's not the guy for this job. THAT is the mistake.
We all just watched this basketball season. LSU was totally outclassed in the SEC. Along with only winning 3 games, there were only a handful in which they reasonably had a chance to win in the final minutes of the game. That might be excusable...if it was an outlier. But it's not. 58 SEC games into McMahon's LSU career (including the SEC Tournament) that is the norm.
14 SEC teams made the NCAA Tournament. The last of which, Texas, is going to fire their HC (who went to 3 straight NCAA Tournaments) following a season I'm convinced half of this board would throw a celebratory parade for McMahon if he accomplished it. That is how low McMahon has sunk the program. Great "success" for LSU is considered failure by other SEC programs.
There is zero logical reason to continue on the path for another year. Yet, that is exactly what LSU is doing
The lack of NIL funding is BS floated by the AD to justify the ACTUAL mistake....continuing on with McMahon despite the fact it is abundantly clear he's not the guy for this job. THAT is the mistake.
We all just watched this basketball season. LSU was totally outclassed in the SEC. Along with only winning 3 games, there were only a handful in which they reasonably had a chance to win in the final minutes of the game. That might be excusable...if it was an outlier. But it's not. 58 SEC games into McMahon's LSU career (including the SEC Tournament) that is the norm.
14 SEC teams made the NCAA Tournament. The last of which, Texas, is going to fire their HC (who went to 3 straight NCAA Tournaments) following a season I'm convinced half of this board would throw a celebratory parade for McMahon if he accomplished it. That is how low McMahon has sunk the program. Great "success" for LSU is considered failure by other SEC programs.
There is zero logical reason to continue on the path for another year. Yet, that is exactly what LSU is doing
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:09 pm to Ampipe96
Not getting Wade back before NC State hired him
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:21 pm to MasterofTigerBait
Thought I read somewhere that two of the three biggest NIL spenders didn’t even make the tourney this year.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:23 pm to Townedrunkard
Depending on what you read, they didn't (Kansas ST and Indiana).
The other was Arkansas.
Kansas ST offered Coleman Hawkins like 2 million to outbid LSU.
The other was Arkansas.
Kansas ST offered Coleman Hawkins like 2 million to outbid LSU.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:24 pm to Ampipe96
Firing Will Wade
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:50 pm to Ampipe96
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Hiring McMahon at all, or hiring him and then not giving him the financial support to put together a competitive team? In the NIL era, if you don’t have the cash to get the players, I don’t think John Wooden would win.
McMahon signed two top 20 classes... please explain why talent is such a problem. The NIL crap is an excuse. If he can't win with top 20 classes, then he isn't going to win with more NIL money.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:39 pm to ellessuuuu
I think the rankings can be misleading. Because when I look at the roster I don’t see a lot of talent/ difference makers out there. I think Cam is a solid piece, but not someone who can shoulder the load alone.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:44 pm to Townedrunkard
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Thought I read somewhere that two of the three biggest NIL spenders didn’t even make the tourney this year.
KState was supposedly the biggest and they missed. So I believe it.
It is certainly is not a guarantee.
I think pouring more money into McMahon is a terrible mistake.
Better players cannot solve the broader flaws in his tenure/job fit.
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