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re: What would your starting Pitcher lineup be for the Regional?

Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:19 am to
Posted by caliegeaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:19 am to
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Little

Hellmers

Beloso


hellmers before beloso? yeah, thank god you're not coaching!!!
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:24 am to
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This will get shite on but I’m going bullpen game 1. Then the normal rotation of Skenes, floyd and Hurd.


So you are planning on losing a game?
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:27 am to
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So you are planning on losing a game?


There are no guarantees. We threw Marceaux against Gonzaga in game 1 (2021), got shutout in the loss and still won the regional. You play the odds. You were gifted an atrocious 4 seed, you can use that gift by making your staff difficult for the teams that will actually be competitive in the regional.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:30 am to
GM1 Hurd : best chance to get deep into game and have a normal bullpen game.

GM2 Skenes: most important game, you throw Skenes to get into drivers seat.

GM3 Floyd : regional champ ship game vs whoever opponent has after 3 games out of loser bracket
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:30 am to
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On the one hand, it would be really nice to build off Hurd's last start, but on the other hand, I still feel like there's a 50% chance he comes out and doesn't have it and is out of the game by the 3rd inning.


7 of his last 8 appearances have been good with a 3.20 ERA in those 7. It’s just that the one bad game was really bad. Even with the bad game, his ERA of 5.49 over the last 8 games is better than the alternatives. It’s not like anyone else has been consistently reliable either beyond Skenes and Floyd.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:34 am to
NO. You don't plan on losing a game. You plan on having dependable arms available for Monday, just in case you do lose 1.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:39 am to
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Money would be my next choice simply because I know he is going to throw strikes and challenge hitters.


Longest outing all year :

3.2ip
65 pitches

So who do you bring in in the 4th inning ?

Burn out the bullpen that isn’t good to begin with?


Worst case is Hurd starts and gets ran early. You can bring in Cooper or Money to try and steal some innings. You aren’t losing anything
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3637 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:41 am to
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You play the odds. You were gifted an atrocious 4 seed, you can use that gift by making your staff difficult for the teams that will actually be competitive in the regional.


Yes, you do that by maximizing the likelihood that you go 3-0, not by holding back one of your best arms just in case you slip up along the way. Absolutely, you hold back Skenes and Floyd for the second and third game, but it makes no sense to save Hurd for a 4th game you hope you don’t need to play. Now, if the argument is that Hurd is better used as a finisher in multiple games, then I am open to that as the best possible strategy to maximize going 3-0.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:46 am
Posted by MrKnowItAll
Strop City
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:41 am to
Skenes

Skenes

Skenes

He's a big strong kid.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25848 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:42 am to
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So who do you bring in in the 4th inning ?

Burn out the bullpen that isn’t good to begin with?


We already did this on April 11. It isn't that hard to figure out. That day they did

Little
Money
Collins
Dutton
Cooper
Hurd

Replace Hurd with Coleman as an opener, use Little if needed.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
29868 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:43 am to
I think you have to go Hurd Skenes in G1 and G2...if you lose either of those games then you pretty much don't have a chance to win the thing with the arms you have left and how they have performed.

That said I think in G1 you give Hurd the game if he comes out with his stuff clicking...if he doesn't have his best stuff I still think he can be successful against Tulane, but he is on a real real short leash here.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:45 am to
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use Little if needed.


If Little sees the mound in any game this series other than maybe Tulane...well let's just say I don't feel real good about that scenario.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:46 am to
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If Little sees the mound in any game this series other than maybe Tulane...well let's just say I don't feel real good about that scenario.



I understand that. I'd imagine he would only pitch if we are pounding Tulane.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73508 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:46 am to
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Longest outing all year :

3.2ip
65 pitches


While I think he's absolutely shown improvement, he hasn't shown he can extend. A month ago I would have (and I think did) say he'd be an option to start game 1, but that was based on an expectation of him being able to extend his outings and maintain effectiveness.

He's kind of capped at a 9-15 batter guy. His best outings have been when he knows he's only going one inning. It's good to know both of those things to be able to work around them.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:47 am to
This isn’t a singular meaningless midweek game

You want to throw 5 pitchers in GM1 when you need to win 3 games in 3 days lol. Doesn’t make a ton of sense
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
The farther west the farther out
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:47 am to
Yup. It only makes sense to use Little if we're up by at least 8-10 runs in the Tulane game just to not burn a better arm.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29868 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:48 am to
In that scenario I'd only be at quarter pucker when he takes the mound
Posted by therick711
South
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25848 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:51 am to
You aren't pitching most of those guys in any other game. Worrying that Sammy Dutton got you 5 outs as you pound the 4 seed into oblivion is not a real consideration.
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
1787 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:51 am to
Money - Game 1
Skenes - Game 2
Floyd - Game 3
Hurd - To close out championship or Game 4 if necessary
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284804 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:53 am to
LSU’s bullpen isn’t good enough for you to say you wouldn’t need those guys at other points during the weekend

shite, they were using Dutton in a leverage situation in the SECT.
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