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What/who would determine a "Super Conference" team?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:27 pm
With the news of USC and UCLA leaving for the BIG10, the speculation of a Super Conference (SC) ramps up.
My question is, what makes a SC team? Revenue potential? Where is the line?
What SC teams would come from the SEC? Bama, UGA, Florida, Texas, OU, Auburn, LSU, ... ???
Potentially, how many teams will ultimately make up the conference? 32? 64?
Lots to speculate about.
My question is, what makes a SC team? Revenue potential? Where is the line?
What SC teams would come from the SEC? Bama, UGA, Florida, Texas, OU, Auburn, LSU, ... ???
Potentially, how many teams will ultimately make up the conference? 32? 64?
Lots to speculate about.
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:29 pm to mikedatyger
When does the NCAA die?
2024? 2025???
As long as the NCAA dies because of this, it’s a good thing.
2024? 2025???
As long as the NCAA dies because of this, it’s a good thing.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 2:38 pm to mikedatyger
OP, rather than jamming everyone into a 32 or 64 team conference, I think the conventional idea is to create 4 16-team superconferences. In that regard, the SEC got there first, and the B1G is following suit. In theory, the ACC and either Big12 or Pac## will become the next one or two to move that direction.
In terms of what makes a school worthy of that designation, I think it's an overall profile of athletic program success, academics, financials, alumni and fanbase, and of course marketability and value in terms of TV contracts and tie-ins. Basically, your bluebloods plus a good chunk of "new money."
In terms of what makes a school worthy of that designation, I think it's an overall profile of athletic program success, academics, financials, alumni and fanbase, and of course marketability and value in terms of TV contracts and tie-ins. Basically, your bluebloods plus a good chunk of "new money."
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:37 pm to SeanLSU
Why keep the current conferences? Why not cherry-pick the 32 best teams and create new conferences?
Swap out Missouri for Oregon, etc.
Swap out Missouri for Oregon, etc.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:02 pm to mikedatyger
How many teams should make it into the super conferences? I could see roughly 60ish but does that take away from wanting a bigger playoff?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:05 pm to mikedatyger
Bro lets just expand the NFL to 64 teams
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:03 pm to Sevensblue
Vandy’s SEC membership is on life support now, IMO.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 11:29 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
As long as the NCAA dies because of this, it’s a good thing
Why? Because college athletic have been so boring before now?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:03 am to ShaneTheMaster
Can they be kicked out?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:24 am to Earnest_P
quote:Like it or not, it's a regime change on the horizon; the big schools (D1) will run themselves, without the lower levels having a say.quote:
As long as the NCAA dies because of this, it’s a good thing
Why? Because college athletic have been so boring before now?
As to which teams make a 'super conference', that's mostly irrelevant. We're temporarily heading towards the the old pro football from the 60's; the NFL and the AFL. As we know, they didn't play each other for years, and despite finally getting a Super Bowl, the NFL eventually swallowed the AFL.
Right now, the SEC and Big 10 are becoming the NFL and AFL, and we're not quite sure who is who.
I think the SEC is doing better, because it's pretty close to having 2 concise groups that would make good, balanced 8 or 10 team conferences. The Big 10 hasn't made a good move since Penn State; they took Nebraska who might fit with Iowa, Rutgers fits with nobody, and Maryland doesn't either.
Missouri was sorta that way with the SEC, but sorta fit with Arkansas and A&M; and now Oklahoma and Texas make it a more confortable fit.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:05 am to mikedatyger
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My question is, what makes a SC team? Revenue potential? Where is the line?
Media market plain and simple. I don't really agree with that opinion because most of Southern California couldn't give a shite about college football. But the Los Angeles metro area has over 18.5 million people so I guess they figure even though that area is not a college sports hot bed that they be able to draw enough in the make worth while.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:46 am to mikedatyger
Its ALL $
Now, and as broken as it is, NIL offers players to get a piece of the action that the adults have been getting for years (TV $, salaries, ticket/jersey sales, filling up them athletic dept budgets, etc).
College football died years ago. It is accelerating towards professional model faster than an asteroid to a dinosaur.
Now, and as broken as it is, NIL offers players to get a piece of the action that the adults have been getting for years (TV $, salaries, ticket/jersey sales, filling up them athletic dept budgets, etc).
College football died years ago. It is accelerating towards professional model faster than an asteroid to a dinosaur.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:10 am to mikedatyger
So it would be like the minor leagues in baseball. Triple A, Double A. Single A. Triple A would be more or less paid mercenaries and the lower tiers would be real student athletes.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:58 am to mikedatyger
quote:
Why keep the current conferences? Why not cherry-pick the 32 best teams and create new conferences?
Swap out Missouri for Oregon, etc.
because having a women's basketball team taking a midweek flight from Gainesville to Eugene is stupid. It's basically a 2-3 day trip. Or they leave super early in the morning and get back at like 2am and are then expected to be in class the next morning. Geographically regional conferences is still the best way to do things imo.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:16 pm to Sevensblue
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Can they be kicked out?
I think anything is possible at this point.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:27 pm to ShaneTheMaster
Conference membership Isnt the problem - it’s division membership. There are many programs that don’t belong in division 1-A. Division 1-A should only have like roughly 40-50 teams.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:40 pm to SeanLSU
quote:
OP, rather than jamming everyone into a 32 or 64 team conference, I think the conventional idea is to create 4 16-team superconferences. In that regard, the SEC got there first, and the B1G is following suit.
I agree the move seemed to be 4 16 team super conferences, however it seems everyone incorrectly assumed the PAC-12 would be one of them. It makes no sense to have USC/UCLA in the BIG Ten
Posted on 7/1/22 at 2:05 pm to mikedatyger
If we’re poaching ACC teams I want Clemson FSU VA TECH and UNC. Doubt it happens. ND is more likely to just join the ACC.
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