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re: What we're finding out this week is just how rotten LSU's football program is right now.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:11 am to Hurricane2020
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:11 am to Hurricane2020
quote:ah yes the classic if you make all of our losses wins we’d have been a good team game
As horribly coached as this team was, we were 3 last second losses (Bama, arkansas, and auburn) from being 9-3 and in a 3 way tie breaker situation for first in the sec west with Bama and Ole miss ffs.
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:46 am to macaoidh
im going to hang in the book forum for awhile .tired of SEC rant and OT lounge forums ....REAL TIRED 
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:09 pm to LifeAquatic
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3 last second losses (Bama, arkansas, and auburn) from being 9-3 and in a 3 way tie breaker situation for first in the sec west with Bama and Ole miss ffs
You're correct that we were close to being 9-3, but you're incorrect that this would've put us at the top of the SECW. Bama had 1 conference loss. We'd have had 2.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:20 pm to Pelican fan99
quote:What I think that points out, is something someone said on the SEC Rant last year:quote:
As horribly coached as this team was, we were 3 last second losses (Bama, arkansas, and auburn) from being 9-3 and in a 3 way tie breaker situation for first in the sec west with Bama and Ole miss ffs.
ah yes the classic if you make all of our losses wins we’d have been a good team game
you can be mediocre, and your OOC cupcakes can make the season look good.
Yes, we were a pass a way from winning the Bama game, the Arkansas game, and a couple tackles from the Auburn game. And btw to the other poster, that WOULD have put us in 1st in the West, because that would have been Bama's second loss.
Program was still a disaster. People bring up 2019, things shouldn't have gone to hell after that in the first place. Don't say "covid", everyone dealt with that. Don't say "attrition", Bama won a title with Mac Jones after Tua left. Tennessee won their BCS title AFTER Peyton left. Georgia has been tooling along at a high rate with different, unexpected QBs the past few years. No collapses to 6-6 there.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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DiNardo was a good coach with a good culture. He recruited well
Bring back the magic 2
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:31 pm to macaoidh
Agree 100%.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" does NOT apply here.
It's broke- and Kelly is fixing it.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" does NOT apply here.
It's broke- and Kelly is fixing it.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:36 pm to Metaloctopus
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I'm not upset at Brian Kelly for any of the departures. I'm upset at quitters.
Those of you with this attitude don't get it. You're OK with Kelly letting staff go, because it's just business.
It's the same with the players. The best players have an opportunity to change not only their lives, but that of their families and their children and grandchildren if they make it in the NFL.
The near future for LSU football is far from certain. They have limited time to reach and showcase their potential. They know they will have a better chance as a starter on a team that is likely to win and get attention.
It is unreasonable to expect loyalty from staff and players when in the end, it's just business on both sides.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:45 pm to macaoidh
Sometimes you have to burn down the old barn to build a new one. Great post. Agree 100%
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:49 pm to Eauxld Geauxld
Everyone currently on the team is just a number on a board. They can either rise or fall.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:52 pm to macaoidh
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Everything about the past two years looks like the end of Gerry DiNardo to me,
DiNardo never won a National Championship or had a Heisman trophy winner, or had arguably the greatest College football team ever. Without Coach O good or bad and I get it both ways we do not get those things…Saying that; the old saying, what price is gold comes to mind.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:53 pm to macaoidh
Nothing that is happening now is out of the ordinary with coaching changes.
The staff and roster always has turnover during these.
Why anyone is even concerned rt now is crazy.
The staff and roster always has turnover during these.
Why anyone is even concerned rt now is crazy.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:01 pm to Kimist
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The near future for LSU football is far from certain. They have limited time to reach and showcase their potential. They know they will have a better chance as a starter on a team that is likely to win and get attention.
Well, I wish them luck. Because not everyone who leaves is going to automatically be a rousing success, elsewhere. Lots of examples of that; Joe Burrows don't grow on trees.
You can't squeeze every kid with dreams of making it to the NFL into the 8 hottest teams in the country in any given season. Most will simply have to "settle" for helping build their own powerhouse, elsewhere.
LSU is clearly as good a place as any for a player with a professional football future to showcase their talent. ANY kid who starts or has significant playing time there won't be flying under the radar. LSU has been a pipeline to the NFL, and will continue to be under Brian Kelly.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:07 pm to massilsu
Ed that you?
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:11 pm to Kimist
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Those of you with this attitude don't get it. You're OK with Kelly letting staff go, because it's just business.
Being fired, and quitting, are two entirely different things. I have no idea how you could compare the two.
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It's the same with the players. The best players have an opportunity to change not only their lives, but that of their families and their children and grandchildren if they make it in the NFL.
The near future for LSU football is far from certain. They have limited time to reach and showcase their potential. They know they will have a better chance as a starter on a team that is likely to win and get attention.
LSU has put out more talent in the NFL than any other school for at least a decade, if not two. The future here is far less uncertain now, than it was with Orgeron leading the program, and we somehow managed a 15-0 season, even with him.
But more than that, it is patently false to suggest that you have to be on a winner to get attention. This isn't 1950, friend. Scouts are everywhere, and they don't even need to be where the players are, in order to see them. Video is is everywhere. And there isn't a CHANCE that scouts aren't going to be looking at LSU's roster. It blows my mind that you use that as an excuse for players leaving. Guys get drafted out of FCS schools in the first round. If you're good, they'll find you, period.
These players are simply jumping ship, either because they aren't pampered enough; they can't stand adversity; or they don't want to compete with other players on the roster, in most cases. In the rare case that there is a family issue and players decide to go back close to home, that's understandable. But we both know that isn't normally the case.
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It is unreasonable to expect loyalty from staff and players when in the end, it's just business on both sides.
It's not business to quit. People are expected to produce. Players, coaches, and every job out there. You produce, or you get shown the door. But there is a heck of a lot more loyalty (or should be) in a team setting, than there is in any other occupation. There is a common goal. When I go to work, my co-workers don't care how well I do, because my output doesn't affect their goals. It affects my boss. But employees typically don't care how well their boss's business is doing, so long as they get paid. A team is all about working together and competing to win. Walking away from a situation where you've been given every opportunity, and quitting on your teammates, just to be a front runner somewhere else, is weak, and I have no respect for it.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:11 pm to macaoidh
CBK needs to start getting commitments. We have none so far since the hire. Riley would have gotten commitments already
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:22 pm to macaoidh
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They wouldn't have cared about his mannerisms or anything else,
Players complained or are leaving because of BK's mannerisms? Where is that info?
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:57 pm to CatsGoneWild
quote:I think you're not looking at the bigger picture with this...
CBK needs to start getting commitments. We have none so far since the hire. Riley would have gotten commitments already
Like someone said, this isn't a repair job. It's a rebuild.
Kelly isn't coming here to maintain or revive, he's going to uproot everything and put his system in place. It isn't like Saban to Miles, or Miles to Orgeron; it's like Hallman to Dinardo.
That's why they hired a guy with his resume, with a 10 yr contract. They don't care about 2022 (it would be nice but it doesn't matter), they want solid foundation with a new layer added each year, until you get back to championship level and stay there.
Saban built that once, Miles maintained it for a long time, but it drifted towards the end. Orgeron let it rot. It's got to be gutted out again.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:24 pm to Scoob
There is no inheritance in college football You’re only as valuable as your last game or practice.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:59 pm to massilsu
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BUCKEYE NATION .EARNED.RECOGNIZE fools
Posted on 12/11/21 at 1:05 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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We were just as close to 3-9 as we were to 9-3
In other words, is the cup full or half empty.
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