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re: What Recent LSU Football Coach "inherited" the best team/rode the momentum?

Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7190 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:12 pm to
You say:
quote:

Miles
Orgeron
Kelly
Saban

in that order.
But then you say:
quote:

Miles inherited a roster that was going to win a championship at some point.

O inherited a very good roster that needed a QB and a decent Coordinator.

Saban inherited some
decent pieces

Kelly inherited less than half a roster.
I am going to assume that you mis-ordered your list, and you meant to say that your ranking would be:
quote:

Miles
Orgeron
Saban
Kelly

in that order.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
20184 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:17 pm to
Miles!!!
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9710 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:22 pm to
Miles hands down.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14203 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:27 pm to
quote:


Kelly inherited the worst team.


Kelly inherited good talent but brought in the worst assistant coaches since
Woody hired Pelini.
How many Defensive players did Kelly inherent that are now in the NFL?
Offensive players.?

Bringing back the Orgeron staff may save us.


Listening to the fans, its amazing how much better the Orgeron staff has become the second time around.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18834 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Kelly inherited much more talent . Kelly has done way less with way more talent than Saban in his first 3 seasons




This part of your post is laughable. Kelly inherited a roster with less than 50 players and a WR who was starting at QB in the bowl game. Orgeron could have set this program back for decades had Kelly not come in with a plan and the leadership in place to allow him to execute.

We’d be worse than Florida right now.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34207 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Kelly inherited a disaster


Disaster is probably a bit overboard, but it wasn't great. However, he also had something the other coaches didn't. The ability to immediately plug holes with immediately eligible transfers
Posted by LCBayou
Member since Oct 2016
662 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:42 pm to
If you go further back I'd say Mike Archer inherited a stacked lineup from Bill Arnsparger.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52567 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Saban inherited a better roster than Kelly IMO

Roster? Sure. But Kelly inherited a much better brand, and that's more important than the roster.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13560 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

it’s remarkable how in 2 short years, Orgeron nearly destroyed LSU for a decade +


A decade+??

Good lord some of yall are so dramatic. We had two horrible seasons then made the SECCG in 2023 then won ten games the following year
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9861 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:03 pm to
1.) Miles
2.) Orgeron
3.) Kelly
4.) Saban

In terms of quality of team inherited
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:04 pm to
How is this even a question??

Miles
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:07 pm to
I’ll add that Saban took over a better roster than people think.
He turned them into monsters but several key pieces were there.

Kelly took over a worse situation that a lot of people want to admit.

It’s quite impressive how fast O sunk the ship after 19
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Absolutely not . Recruiting rankings have changed in the time between the two , but you can look up the rankings and overall team star totals and Kelly inherited much more talent . Kelly has done way less with way more talent than Saban in his first 3 seasons


This among the most unbelievably stupid posts ever on this board. And that’s quite a feat

Kelly inherited a roster with what 35 scholarship players. Several of which weren’t that good.

It’s fine if you don’t like BK, but get out of here with this nonsense
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Let’s win an SEC or national championship with Kelly before he ranks above anyone who has


That has nothing to do with the question the OP asked.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Disaster is probably a bit overboard


Disaster is exactly what it was. Hell disaster may be a compliment.

35 scholarship players when he was hired and no QB.

Time will tell on how good he will really be here, but the fact that he was able to turn the roster he inherited into SECw champs in year one is nothing short of amazing.

Even people who don’t like him should be honest enough to admit that much.
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
4205 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:27 pm to
The dropoff was evident in Miles very first game
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41396 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Kelly inherited a disaster


Roster absolutely. If it wasnt the LSU brand it would have been a long rebuild.
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
7182 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:09 pm to
How is this a question?? Miles
Posted by TigerLifer18
Member since May 2023
3396 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

A decade+?? Good lord some of yall are so dramatic. We had two horrible seasons then made the SECCG in 2023 then won ten games the following year


Uh, pal, that is because Kelly is such a good coach, and was able to hit on a lot of transfers right away in the new age of NIL and player movement.

Had we kept O another year or two, I promise you, the effects would have been catastrophic. Nothing dramatic about speaking the truth.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
4852 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 2:18 pm to
Yep Miles easily. He inherited Saban’s team. But he constructed 2011. It’s a shame how that year ended up. His hubris
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