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re: What is the % chance that Brady is a complete flop in the NFL

Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:24 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:24 am to
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And what does that mean? You think if he flops in Carolina he’ll be selling insurance but 35? Come on, worst case if he gets fired in Carolina he could for back to college or be a position coach.

You guys just sound bitter because he left.



Nobody is bitter at all. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that 100% of the people here who think there is a chance he'll flow would take him as LSUs OC in a heartbeat.

You seem to be the one who is emotional about this. Your Kyle Allen can improve melt was particularly funny and off point.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19726 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:26 am to
NFL OC is a big job, I hope he does well but he could flop. THis year, it was a perfect storm, with a great QB and elite receivers and RB. Brady had a huge talent advantage over all our opponents.

Now look, Brady did a fantastic job, but NFL OC is a big step up, and the talent advantage won't be there, even though he'll have Cam Newton back and Christian McAferee.

I certainly wish him the best, but this is a risk.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5221 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:28 am to
50% chance he is less than successful.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:30 am to


50%

Most of it is out of his control.

Team needs a lot.

Posted by Stropdaddy
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
351 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:33 am to
As with LSU, talent will determine everything. I actually think he is limited in the NFL due to salary cap. Much more talent as a whole on premiere teams in college. Systems are a start but players make the system!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19726 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:37 am to
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After two seasons with Peyton, he should be ready for the job.

so a coach, who's not a coordinator, can spend two years with a top NFL coach and then they'll be ready for an NFL OC gig?

Good lord.
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
3986 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:39 am to
No one knows obviously. He has never been a coordinator by himself so it will be interesting. It is a good place for him so we will see.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:45 am to
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No one knows obviously. He has never been a coordinator by himself so it will be interesting. It is a good place for him so we will see.
We do know this... Brady was key in fielding arguably the greatest passing offense in the history of college football.

AND, that Brady's style of offense has done very well in the NFL.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 8:47 am
Posted by Txtiger54
League city,Tx
Member since Aug 2009
628 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:46 am to
Brady had the best QB in the country, best wide receivers in the country, best tight end, top 3 running back in the country, best O line in the country. Perfect storm for him, won't happen in Carolina. Hope he's back in 2 yrs as OC in Baton Rouge if Coach E. retires.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170563 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:49 am to
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What is the % chance that Brady is a complete flop in the NFL

I think fairly low

And I say that almost entirely because he has Christian McCaffrey on the roster who fits in perfectly with what he likes to do on offense.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60712 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:52 am to
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Nobody is bitter at all. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that 100% of the people here who think there is a chance he'll flow would take him as LSUs OC in a heartbeat.


this is basically admitting you are bitter he left


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You seem to be the one who is emotional about this


How so? Because i don't think he "flops" and if he doesn't it really matter because he will get other jobs?

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Your Kyle Allen can improve melt was particularly funny and off point.



Melt? Do you even know what that means ? Why would I melt over Kyle Allen?

The guy i was responding brought up Allen as if that's the only QB Brady will have because he was the most recent QB in Carolina, like that's the only choice they will ever have. I mean as far as i know they still have Newton but I would have thought it was logical that they would either draft a QB (2020 or even 2021) or bring in a free agent if they don't like Allen but he was only a 2nd year UDFA, so to act like his numbers from last year are all he could ever do is nonsensical.

TL;DR, either they improve Allen or get a new QB either way what Allen did last year is not really relevant.

This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61896 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:53 am to
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We do know this... Brady was key in fielding arguably the greatest passing offense in the history of college football.

AND, that Brady's style of offense has done very well in the NFL.


So did Spurrier back in the day. And his protection schemes didn’t work in the NFL. And his offense wasn’t very productive as a result. And he was quickly out of the league.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60712 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:59 am to
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So did Spurrier back in the day. And his protection schemes didn’t work in the NFL


Almost 20 years ago

Also HC and OC are not really comparable

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his offense wasn’t very productive as a result


I'm sure it was nothing to do with the personnel

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And he was quickly out of the league.


and back to being a HC in college.



Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61896 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:02 am to
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this is basically admitting you are bitter he left


Saying that he’s welcome back means I’m bitter? Are you mentally challenged?

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How so? Because i don't think he "flops" and if he doesn't it really matter because he will get other jobs?


No. I welcome that opinion. In fact I asked. But you’ve jumped to the conclusion that people who think he MIGHT struggle think that means he won’t get other jobs. That’s your invention. I think he has a job in college whenever he wants it.
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Melt? Do you even know what that means ? Why would I melt over Kyle Allen?

The guy i was responding brought up Allen as if that's the only QB Brady will have because he was the most recent QB in Carolina, like that's the only choice they will ever have. I mean as far as i know they still have Newton but I would have thought it was logical that they would either draft a QB (2020 or even 2021) or bring in a free agent if they don't like Allen but he was only a 2nd year UDFA, so to act like his numbers from last year are all he could ever do is nonsensical.

TL;DR, either they improve Allen or get a new QB either way what Allen did last year is not really relevant.


Allen is a very average NFL qb. And the QB situation in Carolina is relevant.

Your posts are the epitome of emotional thinking.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:02 am to
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So did Spurrier back in the day. And his protection schemes didn’t work in the NFL. And his offense wasn’t very productive as a result. And he was quickly out of the league.
Got a TV? Missed what Drew Brees has been doing with this offense?
Posted by Bandits58
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2015
3525 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:05 am to
he probably be done in 3 years and then go to bama to reavitilze his career.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3395 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:21 am to
The guy appears to be very bright and has an unimpeachable work ethic added to the fact that he has a sterling pedigree with regards to his coaching tree, so I would say he is a pretty darn safe bet when these things are viewed in light of this year's transformational success here at LSU.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14241 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:30 am to
95%.
Nothing against Brady, but he is not experienced enough to be OC anywhere including the NFL. I’m not saying he doesn’t have the potential, he just doesn’t have the present. He’s 30 years old with limited coaching years and duties. Now, maybe this will be one of those lucky 5. I would normally wish him well and thanks for the memories, but he’s going to the Panthers. Thanks for the memories only.

The Panthers are throwing a Hail Mary, and I hope THEY fail.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20646 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:31 am to
NFL - one year from being an assistant to an assistant (not coordinator) in the NFL and now the OC.

LSU's season was the perfect storm and while a major contributor to the historical offense - he is not 100% responsible and the sole reason for all the success.

Perception is greater than reality so he is set for life. Even if he totally bombs out the next 3 years, he will only be 33 years old with the perception of being an offensive genius based on this one college season.
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:33 am to
Based on what Joe Brady did for our scheme this season, he will be a millionaire for the next decade or more as long as he doesn’t personally implode off the field. Even if the OC spot at Carolina doesn’t work out, he could pick any OC job at the college level and make over a million a year. He’s set for his professional life.
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