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re: What is really going on with the football program?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:06 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:06 pm to Fat Bastard
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stop speaking in absolutes like you know something
Fine. You are the boss.
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:19 pm to sheek
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It's all irreverent. There was no search that took place.
But why was there no search? I understand that the idiots fans were in a frenzy because LSU beat up on some bad teams and they thought it was because of the local coach. But the AD has to put the emotions aside and do what is right. How did he convince his superiors that a legit search was not needed? So many questions that will never be answered.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:21 pm to Soup Sammich
A search committee should have been formed and Alleva shouldn't have done this search alone. We fire a coach 2 weeks into the season and we end up with Ed O of all people? This is a nightmare and any one who watched him at Ole Miss knew what he was.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:24 pm to Soup Sammich
It should be mentioned that:
a) Aranda was the golden boy (still is IMO) and there was concern that another coach would insist on bringing their own DC. IOW, keep O, keep Dave.
b) The Les backdrop was poor offense. Stay as close to what Les had built as we could just update the offense. Remember all the Kiffin rumors?
a) Aranda was the golden boy (still is IMO) and there was concern that another coach would insist on bringing their own DC. IOW, keep O, keep Dave.
b) The Les backdrop was poor offense. Stay as close to what Les had built as we could just update the offense. Remember all the Kiffin rumors?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:29 pm to crazy4lsu
What's going on is that we're headed for 6-6, possibly worse. We can't hope to compete in the SEC without enough DL to even substitute. No QB, not enough quality OL to make a solid starting unit, and WRs that still struggle to run routes and catch the ball. We were exposed in the trenches and the only answer for that is recruiting, which wont help us win any games this year.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:32 pm to Katy Tiger
Supposedly right after the hire CEO was on the phone with Kiffin with Alleva and FKA listening in
CEO asked Kiffin who he thought the next LSU OC would be and Kiffin allegedly said "it better fricking be me"
They were drunk on the PR of pulling BAMA's OC away during the SECCG Week and then Kiffin got run from BAMA and took off for FAU
CEO asked Kiffin who he thought the next LSU OC would be and Kiffin allegedly said "it better fricking be me"
They were drunk on the PR of pulling BAMA's OC away during the SECCG Week and then Kiffin got run from BAMA and took off for FAU
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:34 pm to Soup Sammich
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How did he convince his superiors that a legit search
I hate speculating, but he probably had collusion with the LSU BOS to go out and hire O from the start. O's media minions probably politiced the right folks on the LSU BOS Emmert and Charlie Weams did the search when Saban was hired. It was a legit committee and the circle was small.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:59 pm to medtiger
quote:We ended up with Orgeron bc Alexander twarted Alleva's attempt to replace Miles with Jimbo.
I'm fairly convinced that we ended up with Orgeron because Alleva was embarrassed when Herman played him for the Texas
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:50 am to airfernando
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We ended up with Orgeron bc Alexander twarted Alleva's attempt to replace Miles with Jimbo.
exactly
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:28 am to Soup Sammich
Maybe all those prospective coaches read the the rant and saw their future . There is no such thing as magical coaches who can solve your problems , herman lost two out of three of his last games !
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:32 am to sheek
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I hate speculating, but he probably had collusion with the LSU BOS to go out and hire O from the start. O's media minions probably politiced the right folks on the LSU BOS Emmert and Charlie Weams did the search when Saban was hired. It was a legit committee and the circle was small.
So long as we're speculating, I've always assumed O and the Gang were making waves behind the scenes from the end of the 2015 season after Miles was retained. I fully believe that O was politicking for this job from that point on.
Hard to imagine he'd have even been in consideration without a lot of grease having been applied for a long time.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:38 am to Skooter
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Oh good. A new topic with a fresh perspective
If you cannot say something constructive, maybe just keep your misguided thoughts to yourself. OK?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:41 am to Soup Sammich
What's going on is a lack of successful recruiting, over a long period of time. For many years, our success in recruiting RBs and DBs has masked an overall decline in the quality of linemen and LBs.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:45 am to Katy Tiger
The recruiting has fallen off the cliff. Too many good La players leave especially for hated Alabama. No excuse. The problem with LSU football is at the level of the President/BOT. Alleva and Orgeron are merely symptoms.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:49 am to Soup Sammich
wait about 20 years and the "behind the scene stuff will surface". hell, it probably will after alleva retires.
it is apparent to me that other qualified candidates didn't want the job; the guy from NC and Gundy of Okie light. LSU was painted in the corner and decided to give O a shot.
now that that's settled why don't you move on. Orgeron IS INDEED THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH AT LSU and how he got there is not even relevant information. it is stale news.
it is apparent to me that other qualified candidates didn't want the job; the guy from NC and Gundy of Okie light. LSU was painted in the corner and decided to give O a shot.
now that that's settled why don't you move on. Orgeron IS INDEED THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH AT LSU and how he got there is not even relevant information. it is stale news.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 6:39 pm to Soup Sammich
He didn't know anybody better and didn't want to lose a good recruiting class , He should have done the right thing and kept Les and we wouldn't be in this mess !Coach O is a great choice for us who smart enough to realize it !
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 6:44 pm to Soup Sammich
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I'm starting to think that Orgeron was the ONLY option he had.
You don't think we could have had Petrino (I wouldn't have been a fan, but still), Fleck, Mullen, hell, a number of guys with proven track records - if Alleva had opened the checkbook. Go back to the press at the time. Alleva's own words make it clear as vodka - he did not want to bid for talent and he did not want to negotiate.
So, with those criteria, O was his only choice. Malfeasance is the word for what Alleva did. That's not on O. That's on Alleva. I say this thinking at the time that the hire might work with a world class OC and the stars aligning just right. I say this rooting like hell for this football team to prove the naysayers wrong.
That's how bad this "process" of replacing Miles was.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 6:45 pm to Soup Sammich
I'm starting to wonder if the rumors about Bob Stoops was true.
I would much rather him than Coach O
I would much rather him than Coach O
Posted on 9/19/17 at 6:57 pm to biglego
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Someone said the big buyout was not for O but for Alleva. To protect himself in a way.
Didn't Ole Miss promise O he would get 4 years no matter what, only to fire him after 3?
O might have asked for the yuuuge buyout based on that plus the fact that 9-3 is a fireable offense.
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