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re: What are the most inexcusable, needless losses in LSU FB history?
Posted on 4/11/11 at 3:54 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Posted on 4/11/11 at 3:54 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:I knew someone would say that. But absolutely false on multiple levels.
Ole Miss 2009
First of all, it's an SEC game. Second, we were already down...and even if they don't completely botch the time management, there's no guarantee they score. Third, UAB, Colo. St, Miami of friggin Ohio??
The Arkansas loss in 2002 was worse than the OM 2009 game. The Iowa (Cap One) was worse than OM 2009. These were games we had in the bag...just don't let anyone behind you and knock it down.
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Posted on 4/11/11 at 3:59 pm to BilJ
quote:plus fricking 1
2006 AU was by far one of the most frustrating games I've ever witnessed. It was so obvious how much of a better team we were than AU, but the offensive gameplan was just terrible. I get pissed even thinking about it.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:05 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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Auburn 1994
Key stats:
First Downs: LSU-21; AU-8
Total net yards: LSU-407; AU-165
Time of poss: LSU-37:50; AU-22:10
3rd down conv: LSU-9/21; AU-1/12
And, of course, INTs/ret yards: LSU-0/0; AU-6/151
I remember this game very well. I also remember on that next Monday when I went into the restroom in Choppin Hall and written on the stall door was...
"Did you hear that Jamie Howard tried to commit suicide Saturday night? He failed because someone intercepted the bullet!"
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:05 pm to chilge1
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UAB
This HAS to be up there!
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:14 pm to gjackx
Two games: Auburn, 1997 and Ole Miss, 1997.
First Auburn. Cecil Collins destroys Auburn all game long. However, late in the game with a slim lead and facing 3rd and Short, Dinardo elects to throw the ball rather than give it to the workhorse who got him there. Even if Collins would have run the ball, the clock would have continued to run after the play. Instead, the ball goes back to Auburn and Dameyune Craig leads Auburn back to beat LSU.
Next Ole Miss. LSU had beaten #1 Florida the week before. They come out and completely lay an egg for an 11:30 kickoff in Tiger Stadium.
LSU went onto to tie for the SEC West division championship with Auburn, who won the tiebreaker. Ole Miss threw the ball to the tight end across the middle the entire game. Stewart Pattridge looked like an All American QB.
LSU would also go on to lose to Notre Dame in the regular season that year in one of the most boring and cold games I can remember in Tiger Stadium.
A win in either of these games would have sent LSU to Atlanta for its first SECCG. Instead, Carl Reese left, Dinardo hired Lou Tepper, LSU beat ND in the Indy Bowl, and proceeded to tank the next two years.
Of course, those losses may have indirectly led to the firing of Dinardo and subsequent hiring of Saban, so there may be some good that came out of it.
First Auburn. Cecil Collins destroys Auburn all game long. However, late in the game with a slim lead and facing 3rd and Short, Dinardo elects to throw the ball rather than give it to the workhorse who got him there. Even if Collins would have run the ball, the clock would have continued to run after the play. Instead, the ball goes back to Auburn and Dameyune Craig leads Auburn back to beat LSU.
Next Ole Miss. LSU had beaten #1 Florida the week before. They come out and completely lay an egg for an 11:30 kickoff in Tiger Stadium.
LSU went onto to tie for the SEC West division championship with Auburn, who won the tiebreaker. Ole Miss threw the ball to the tight end across the middle the entire game. Stewart Pattridge looked like an All American QB.
LSU would also go on to lose to Notre Dame in the regular season that year in one of the most boring and cold games I can remember in Tiger Stadium.
A win in either of these games would have sent LSU to Atlanta for its first SECCG. Instead, Carl Reese left, Dinardo hired Lou Tepper, LSU beat ND in the Indy Bowl, and proceeded to tank the next two years.
Of course, those losses may have indirectly led to the firing of Dinardo and subsequent hiring of Saban, so there may be some good that came out of it.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:32 pm to The312
Oh. Hell no. How can you bring that shite back and ruin a nice Spring day. I was there and it was fricking awful.
BTW, our kicking from 1997 to 1999 was beyond horrible. Somebody from the Reveille referred to it as a doink-a-day situation (the same writer who fostered the idea of throwing Tupperware--Tepperware--onto the field when the opposing teams began their drives, I think), and he was right.
BTW, our kicking from 1997 to 1999 was beyond horrible. Somebody from the Reveille referred to it as a doink-a-day situation (the same writer who fostered the idea of throwing Tupperware--Tepperware--onto the field when the opposing teams began their drives, I think), and he was right.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:39 pm to geaux99
LSU at Auburn, 1994
Southern Mississippi at LSU, 1994
UAB at LSU, 2000
Colorado State at LSU, 1992
LSU at Vanderbilt, 1990
Texas A & M at LSU, 1970
LSU at Mississippi State, 1982
Mississippi at LSU, 1986
LSU at Ohio State, 1988
South Carolina at LSU, 1994
Southern Mississippi at LSU, 1994
UAB at LSU, 2000
Colorado State at LSU, 1992
LSU at Vanderbilt, 1990
Texas A & M at LSU, 1970
LSU at Mississippi State, 1982
Mississippi at LSU, 1986
LSU at Ohio State, 1988
South Carolina at LSU, 1994
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:40 pm to LSUray
quote:
Two games: Auburn, 1997 and Ole Miss, 1997.
First Auburn. Cecil Collins destroys Auburn all game long. However, late in the game with a slim lead and facing 3rd and Short, Dinardo elects to throw the ball rather than give it to the workhorse who got him there. Even if Collins would have run the ball, the clock would have continued to run after the play. Instead, the ball goes back to Auburn and Dameyune Craig leads Auburn back to beat LSU.
Next Ole Miss. LSU had beaten #1 Florida the week before. They come out and completely lay an egg for an 11:30 kickoff in Tiger Stadium.
LSU went onto to tie for the SEC West division championship with Auburn, who won the tiebreaker. Ole Miss threw the ball to the tight end across the middle the entire game. Stewart Pattridge looked like an All American QB.
LSU would also go on to lose to Notre Dame in the regular season that year in one of the most boring and cold games I can remember in Tiger Stadium.
A win in either of these games would have sent LSU to Atlanta for its first SECCG. Instead, Carl Reese left, Dinardo hired Lou Tepper, LSU beat ND in the Indy Bowl, and proceeded to tank the next two years.
Of course, those losses may have indirectly led to the firing of Dinardo and subsequent hiring of Saban, so there may be some good that came out of it.
You read my mind in every paragraph. And that Notre Dame regular season game was cold as like no other game I've been to in Baton Rouge. My fondest memory from that game was the catatonic dude 10 rows up from me and my crew that had been left by his friends (probably due to the cold arse atmosphere--on and off the field) only to drool an unending stream of vomit from his mouth for seemingly the entire second half. Without the laughs that guy gave us, it would have been one of the most miserable experiences.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 4:43 pm to The312
It is 2011. And I cannot watch that video. That was a gut wrenching loss.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 5:29 pm to Tigerpaul1969
No shite! Can't believe I had to go to pg 2 of this thread to find this.
Miami.
of OHIO.
in Tiger Stadium.
END MF-ing THREAD!!
Miami.
of OHIO.
in Tiger Stadium.
END MF-ing THREAD!!
Posted on 4/11/11 at 5:41 pm to ffhouston
quote:
No shite! Can't believe I had to go to pg 2 of this thread to find this.
page one boss
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Losing to Miami of Ohio a week after upsetting a top 10 ranked A&M team is much worse than UAB
Posted on 4/11/11 at 5:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:You keep mentioning how our losses to Miami (OH) and Tulane were right after big wins, but completely fail to mention that our loss to UAB was the week before we beat top-5 ranked Tennessee.
It was 2000 UAB vs 2000 LSU. It was the 3rd game of the year with a new coach taking over a team that won 3 games the year before and 4 the year before that. We were not a good team yet and it was only a 3 point loss
Frankly, all of this is crazy because the answers all fall sqarely in the Curley-Gerry era:
1) Auburn INT game :shiver:
2) '92 Colorado State
3) '99 Houston
Those games were inexcusable in their own way. The Auburn game was inexcusably bad coaching; WHY would you still be throwing the ball? Literally all we had to do was NOT throw INTs for TDs just one more possession, and we win that game.
The Colorado State game was an inexcusable lowpoint for a the program, as the pits of a 2-9 season.
The '99 Houston game was an inexcusable nadir for a program DiNardo had actually begun to rebuild. Once you get a program back to 10-2, there is no excuse for losing to teams like Houston that year.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 5:57 pm to King Joey
quote:
1) Auburn INT game :shiver:
3 pick 6's. THREE. in one quarter!!!!!
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:02 pm to LCTigers69
quote:Inexcusable officiating! They flat out stole that one. Anyone who insists that bad calls don't change the outcome of a game need look no further than that one.
LSU at Vanderbilt, 1990
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:04 pm to King Joey
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You keep mentioning how our losses to Miami (OH) and Tulane were right after big wins, but completely fail to mention that our loss to UAB was the week before we beat top-5 ranked Tennessee
That's because what happened after is not relevant. In 1986 we upset a top 10 A&M team at home, then laid an egg against a good mid major a week later at home. In 82 we beat a very good Florida State team to earn an Orange Bowl berth (would never get the OB after a loss like that now) then lost at home to Tulane, who I forgot to mention beat LSU 48-7 the year before.
To me losing to a weaker team after you've shown to be a good team is not excusable.
After a bad loss like UAB, to rally and beat a good UT team tells me they got a fire lite under their arse. Adjustments were made maybe plauying time altered, basically that they took something from the loss and learned from it, where losing after a big win is just poor focus imo.
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2) '92 Colorado State
the 92 team was 2-9, not loss was "inexcusable". That team was just terrible/
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3) '99 Houston
how is a team that lost 7 strait making it 8 "inexcusable"? That team may have had talent, certainly more talent than the 92 team, but they were not good, they beat 2 crappy teams to start the season, then mailed it in. That game is a great example of big picture vs little. Joe Dean wanted to keep DiNardo as it was, if we had won that game and finisehd with 2 wins, maybe Gerry stays.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:05 pm to The312
ABSOLUTELY, Alabama 1998. Your link would be too painful to watch and relive. Remove that game from my mind.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:09 pm to Tiger79
quote:Losing on the road to a team that finished 11-2 and in the top 10 and beat that year's national champions is inexcusable, but losing at home to a UAB team that went 3-4 in Conference USA "wasn't that horrible"?
Most inexcusable by coaches -Tennesse05 -Auburn 06 The Uab game wasn't that horrible.
Well, I can see you're judgment is clear, objective and not at all biased by personal feelings about two certain coaches.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:So a letdown=inexcusable but dicking around with top 10 talent until you lose to a shite team at home is no big deal?
To me losing to a weaker team after you've shown to be a good team is not excusable
That's a particularly strange way of assessing things.
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the 92 team was 2-9, not loss was "inexcusable". That team was just terrible
So, what part of that makes it "excusable" to be that terrible? If you suck bad enough to lose the first 10 games, that becomes an excuse for losing the 11th? 
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how is a team that lost 7 strait making it 8 "inexcusable"?
Good lord, I thought I was joking. Let me explain it to you. "Inexcusable" means there is no reasonable explaination besides the ineptitude and failure on the part of the coach. The fact that he put together a team bad enough to lose the previous 7 games does not represent an explaination other than the coach sucking; it is simply more evidence of that exact circumstance. In this particular case, having a team bad enough to lose all those earlier games was close to inexcusable already, but to lose to a team like Houston at home the way we did tipped the scales into inexcusably bad. The fact that we then turned around and crushed Arkansas simply proved that we had the talent on the roster all along to be much better, and simply squandered it with terrible coaching.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:37 pm to The312
I'd say Ole Miss 2009 - don't think I've ever gotten that worked up over LSU football in my life.
Posted on 4/11/11 at 6:44 pm to King Joey
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So a letdown=inexcusable but dicking around with top 10 talent until you lose to a shite team at home is no big deal?
That's not what I said. A team coming off a 3-8 year, with a new coach playing their 3rd game is different from a team coming off a Sugar Bowl appearnce, with a defense mostly intact, that proven 1 WEEK EARLIER. They could beat a top 10 team.
Losing to Ole Miss a week after beating #1 Florida, is a let down. Losing at home to a 3-7 Tulane team, that had beaten you a year before 48-7 is inexcusable.
Also saying a team has top 10 talent is pretty meaningless without context. Are we talking about a lot of freshman? Is all the top 10/ NFL talent playing? A lot of young players are better by week 10 than week 3.
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So, what part of that makes it "excusable" to be that terrible? If you suck bad enough to lose the first 10 games, that becomes an excuse for losing the 11th?
ah again we see a need for friend context. For LSU, there is no excuse to go 2-9 or 3-8 really. But yes, if you suck so bad that you lose the first 10 games, then you suck bad enough to lose 11. A bad team is a bad team. If you want to say its inexcusable to have a team at LSU bad enough to go 2-9, I'm with you, but when you have a team that goes 2-9, no loss is "inexcusable" in a sense. Its basically expected, inexcusable means you were expecting them to win. By week 10 of the 99 season the team had mailed it in. If you went to a game expecting a win, well, shame on you.
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Let me explain it to you. "Inexcusable" means there is no reasonable explaination
Thanks for clearing that up Mr Webster. Now let me explain something to you. Individual games are different than entire seasons. What happened between 89-94 is inexcusable for LSU, that's different than looking at a particular game.
Losing at home on Sr day with a National Title on the Line is different than losing on the road to a top 10 team vying for the same BCS at large spot as you. Different games, different seasons, different expectations.
This post was edited on 4/11/11 at 6:46 pm
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