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re: Well the mystery solved as to why "Key" took a leave from the team
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:29 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:29 pm to SammyTiger
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Why frick up your own product?
I think this is WHY they test in the first place.
If I have a player that smoked weed a couple times at a party ...ok, theres no problem. But If i have a player that is hard core addicted and it causes problems. This will cause problems with his attitude, it will cause problems on and off the field. And will probably end up getting him arrested at some point and embarrassing the team.
This is the kind of situation you have with guys that are kicked off the football team. But I digress. I want the weed industry to grow. I'm invested.
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:30 pm to Dudebro2
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The kid needs a lot of support and a lot of help.”
He's hardly a "kid." He's a grown-arse man according to the law. Too bad.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:30 pm to CP3LSU25
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weed is ruining LSU football
Aleva smokes?
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:31 pm to ThePaleHorse
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I think this is WHY they test in the first place. If I have a player that smoked weed a couple times at a party ...ok, theres no problem. But If i have a player that is hard core addicted and it causes problems. This will cause problems with his attitude, it will cause problems on and off the field. And will probably end up getting him arrested at some point and embarrassing the team
I think It creates a situation where the ONLY problem is the test and the suspensions. Smoking weed doesnt Mean you don’t care about the team or work hard.l or have a bad additude. Tyrann wasn’t a problem on the field or in the locker room. He was just a problem in the piss cup.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:34 pm to SammyTiger
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He was just a problem in the piss cup.
True but it demonstrates a complete lack of awareness for the big picture.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:35 pm to RedTigerRulz
My point is it’s dumb for NFL and college teams to do this to themselves. It hurts them and yet they continue to suspend players and test for a drug that’s relatively harmless.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:36 pm to SammyTiger
I know its a tough decision, and each case is different, but I would want to minimize drug addiction, illegal activity and personal player issues as much as possible.
There may be several players that smoke and can function. But the non-functioning players with issues are the reasons I would want testing to continue.
There may be several players that smoke and can function. But the non-functioning players with issues are the reasons I would want testing to continue.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:37 pm to SammyTiger
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It hurts them and yet they continue to suspend players and test for a drug that’s relatively harmless.
May have to do more with the message it sends to young people coming up in the game. Who knows.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:40 pm to Dudebro2
Dude had the munchies for sure
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:42 pm to SammyTiger
He definitely wasnt a problem on the field!!!! But his life mustve been spiraling, for him to come forward now and be proud that he is cleaned up. He wouldnt call it "cleaned up" if it wasnt a problem. There is a legality issue and morality issue.
His only problem was not just the piss cup. If he was so addicted that he couldnt follow rules, then the addiction is the problem.
I get what you are saying but you are talking as if weed and addiction is totally void of negative impacts, that only the rules and suspensions are bad. Thats not correct.
His only problem was not just the piss cup. If he was so addicted that he couldnt follow rules, then the addiction is the problem.
I get what you are saying but you are talking as if weed and addiction is totally void of negative impacts, that only the rules and suspensions are bad. Thats not correct.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:03 pm to ThePaleHorse
But again he spiraled to the point of getting kicked off his college team and being arrested and possibly not being able to play football. So yeah he did clean up his life.
Those are huge negative impacts that could go away in an instant if owners and the NCAA decided to change a rule.
Edit: the government would also have to change the rule, lol. The NFL and NCAA cannot Decriminalize weed.
Those are huge negative impacts that could go away in an instant if owners and the NCAA decided to change a rule.
Edit: the government would also have to change the rule, lol. The NFL and NCAA cannot Decriminalize weed.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:09 pm to Dudebro2
If you have a bit of self control, you can smoke while in the league.
The way I've heard the NFL drug testing explained is this; All players will be tested at some point between March and July. It's random, so you don't know when.
If you pass that, you will not be tested until the next cycle, meaning if you get tested in May and pass, you will not be tested again until at least the next March. So you can smoke to your heart's content afterwards.
If you fail, THEN you're subjected to repeat testing throughout the year. The NFL wants to look the other way. It's the idiots that cannot hold off until the initial random testing that end up being in the drug program.
The way I've heard the NFL drug testing explained is this; All players will be tested at some point between March and July. It's random, so you don't know when.
If you pass that, you will not be tested until the next cycle, meaning if you get tested in May and pass, you will not be tested again until at least the next March. So you can smoke to your heart's content afterwards.
If you fail, THEN you're subjected to repeat testing throughout the year. The NFL wants to look the other way. It's the idiots that cannot hold off until the initial random testing that end up being in the drug program.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:09 pm to SammyTiger
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the multi-millionaires/billionaires that run the NFL know more about what's good or bad for their business than you. They can probably capitalize correctly and use proper grammar and punctuation, other things I feel sure you think are dumb, too.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:11 pm to SammyTiger
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Leaving the team for the whole spring because he was caught smoking weed feels like an overreaction.
It’s weed. It should be like a 1 game suspension if anything.
I am sure he failed multiple tests and was kicked off the team for a year, but LSU was kind enough to make it look like he was the one taking some time off for personal reasons.
I am wondering if this is why he didn't get his shoulder surgery during his time away, but had to wait to be back at LSU for LSU to pay for it. Can LSU pay for this surgery after you been kicked of the team or suspended for year or not enrolled for classes?
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:13 pm to flyingtexastiger
Yeah the Browns owners clearly have it all together and clearly we’re better off without Gordon.
Sometimes people are wrong. Smart educated people frick up all the time. Doctors used to prescribe laudnum. They still prescribe opioids.
Give me the reasons an NFL player smoking weed in his home after a game hurts his team.
Tell me how it’s benefitted their business?
Sometimes people are wrong. Smart educated people frick up all the time. Doctors used to prescribe laudnum. They still prescribe opioids.
Give me the reasons an NFL player smoking weed in his home after a game hurts his team.
Tell me how it’s benefitted their business?
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:16 pm to Dudebro2
This cant be it. You bail on your team and almost screw up career for weed? Dont buy it.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:19 pm to Tigerbait357
Choosing weed over football is a huge red flag for the future. This goes for anything....
Poor decision making on his part.
Poor decision making on his part.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:23 pm to SammyTiger
Like I said , I get what you are saying. But those arent the only impacts. His behavior, his marriage, his friends, eventually his ability to perform on the field or show up to meetings or hold a conversation are all negative impacts and things that NFL owners are looking out for. His lack of self control is a HUGE red flag for trouble. The piss test only kept him from proving that right or wrong.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:26 pm to ThePaleHorse
I get that it’s a red flag to not be smart enough to stay elligable.
I am Arguing that the NFL is dumb for making this a requirement. The NFL is better when guys like LeVeom Bell and Josh Gordon are playing. They know that. The fans know that.
If there is no other issues (and remember in 2016 probably when he was smoking weed) Arden Key had 16 sacks and was a super star.
Lawrence Taylor drank all night, did drugs, showed up late to games and still dominated on the field and won championships.
How did he hurt his team?
Weed doesn’t make you lazy. Being lazy makes you lazy. Smoking weed is just another thing to do when your not doing work.
I am Arguing that the NFL is dumb for making this a requirement. The NFL is better when guys like LeVeom Bell and Josh Gordon are playing. They know that. The fans know that.
If there is no other issues (and remember in 2016 probably when he was smoking weed) Arden Key had 16 sacks and was a super star.
Lawrence Taylor drank all night, did drugs, showed up late to games and still dominated on the field and won championships.
How did he hurt his team?
Weed doesn’t make you lazy. Being lazy makes you lazy. Smoking weed is just another thing to do when your not doing work.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:29 pm to SammyTiger
I see that you are a huge proponent of legalizing weed. But that still wont make it ok in the eyes of employers or NFL teams. Its still a drug that has life changing affects. Nobody wants someone with no self control (johnny manziel) on their team. Nobody wants that. If Arden Key is being controlled by his drug of choice. Then he'll struggle in the NFL and in life. Now if he is a totally functioning druggie, then he's a rare breed but its a huge risk for an NFL owner to take.
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