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re: Well Said by Jake Mangum from Miss St at CWS Post-Game Press Conference

Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:43 pm to
The Big 10 is the reason for no third paid assistant.
Posted by CajunBullet
New Iberia
Member since Sep 2017
2154 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:44 pm to
Overdue and way past time foe this to happen !
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61836 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:57 pm to
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The attendance doesn't support it.


He plays at Miss St. I promise his attendance supports it.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3004 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:59 pm to
LONG overdue! Glad he used the platform he had to get the message out. Ridiculous not having pay for a 3rd coach, and 11.7 scholarships is WAY outdated, has been like that for over 30 years that I can remember. If not 27-30 scholarships then atleast bump it up over 11.7 so they have more to divide.

Many would be surprised at how many REALLY good players played with little to no scholarship money. Either they had academic scholarships or in cases like LA many of them are TOPS eligible, or paid out of pocket 100%.

Its time!
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16416 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:00 pm to
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The SEC needs to keep this on the front line until a change is made.


The SEC and other P5 conferences need to leave the NCAA and start their own league. The NCAA serves zero purpose for these power conferences.
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

t does happen a lot in baseball, but never in football or basketball (that I know of).


Because they are being used for 2 totally different reasons
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28636 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:24 pm to
It’s really hard to dislike that guy.

I wish Duplantis would’ve gotten the record but outside of him I can’t think of a better guy to hold it than Mangum
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:32 pm to
The total scholarships of 11.5 has been the same since the 60's.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:35 pm to
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The Big 10 is the reason for no third paid assistant.


To them why pay for an extra coach when they can use the extra money to travel south because of the cold weather up north? Nobody up there cares more till May.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56515 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:03 pm to
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He plays at Miss St. I promise his attendance supports it.


That's such a meaningless point. There are some programs that support it (I mentioned this myself in my original post). That's very much the exception.

Again, I want what he wants. But, do we have to sit here and pretend that baseball as a sport supports itself?

Baseball is being treated unfairly as compared to women's sports. That's the reality.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9930 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:45 pm to
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College baseball is evolving,” Mangum said. “It is. I just want to let everyone know, it’s time for a third paid assistant coach in college baseball. There’s a million people averaging watching this game. There’s 30,000 people in that stadium. This is my second time in Omaha. It’s time. This game is evolving. It’s growing. Every year it keeps getting bigger.

“In this dugout, on that field, there were 27 players on each team. You start off with 35, you come (to Omaha) with 27. Of those 35, there’s 11.7 on each team on scholarship. Like, man, this game is getting way too big for that.

“These were the best four years of my life, and it’s time to adapt with that. Every year we’ve had assistant coaches that have not been paid who spend hours upon hours upon hours doing all they can for our program, sleeping in the offices, scouting for us, dealing with camps.

“Come on, man. Go out there and watch that game. There’s 30,000 people in that stadium. A million people watching it. Come on. It’s time to change. It really is.”



The perfect stage to get the story out there.
It's a damn shame it hasn't been recalled. There needs to be a 3rd PAID asst coach. Period.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:48 pm to
If you frame the argument of more money for baseball as a comparison to football.....baseball will never win. If you frame that argument as a people/player initiative I think one day it will get through.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13030 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:07 pm to
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But, do we have to sit here and pretend that baseball as a sport supports itself?


Who gives a shite? If one school chooses to invest more in one sport, let them. Why handcuff them? Would you be upset if more coaches were allowed for the ice hockey team? I wouldn’t give a shite.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:35 pm to
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The Big 10 is the reason for no third paid assistant.


Along with literally every other conference besides the SEC

College baseball is shite nationally. Hold that tournament in Topeka and I 100% guarantee you don't have 30k people in that stadium. Over half of those people are Omaha residents who go because it's literally the biggest event in that city every year.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:37 pm to
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The perfect stage to get the story out there.
It's a damn shame it hasn't been recalled. There needs to be a 3rd PAID asst coach. Period.


I want that too, but it'll never happen. It's just not realistic for 95% of schools with a baseball program.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 6:37 pm
Posted by babymaker
Tornillo, TX
Member since Jul 2004
1326 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 6:56 pm to
shite on Mangum.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18769 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:06 pm to
His mother is attractive, so I value his opinion.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45576 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:15 pm to
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To them why pay for an extra coach when they can use the extra money to travel south because of the cold weather up north? Nobody up there cares more till May.


It was not a requirement, they voted against having the option to hire a 3rd paid assistant
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56515 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:21 pm to
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Who gives a shite? If one school chooses to invest more in one sport, let them. Why handcuff them? Would you be upset if more coaches were allowed for the ice hockey team? I wouldn’t give a shite.



I don't think you are understanding.

I want more scholarships for baseball. I want a 3rd baseball coach.

However, there are programs that don't want that because, unlike LSU and other SEC schools, baseball is a pretty big loser for them financially.
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