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re: “We probably made the (QB decision) even more difficult” Kelly noted after scrimmage

Posted on 4/24/22 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 6:11 pm to
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Brennan:

Cons: Injury History


Overblown. One freak football injury (torn abdominal muscle) that he actually finished out the game with if I recall correctly.

The other injury is a different matter.


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Mobility, Awareness (could be better now)


Not sure that is as bad as some make it out. But in reality, he has taken a game snap in quite some time so only gameplay will tell us the reality of this, IMO.

I am team whoever gives us the best chance to win. Based on the spring game, any choice for starter would not give me pause though Howard would be a total surprise.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33651 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 6:43 pm to
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Best way to control the portal fiasco going on right now. This goes for all positions. You take control back of your roster.
You can't control quitters. You can control giving every guy a fair shake and then playing the best one. Playing someone because you're scared they're gonna transfer is stupid.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Mayfair2Pville
Member since Jul 2013
444 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 6:44 pm to
It’s obvious he trying to keep Myles around for as long as possible… their is absolutely no reason a 6th year guy not separating himself more than a guy who just got to campus and a guy he was ahead of already last year… just shows me Nuss has improved that much and we need to ride with him…
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:08 pm to
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It’s obvious he trying to keep Myles around for as long as possible… their is absolutely no reason a 6th year guy not separating himself more than a guy who just got to campus and a guy he was ahead of already last year… just shows me Nuss has improved that much and we need to ride with him…


Shows me that Kelly wants all three quarterbacks at his disposal competing all through fall practice and probably a bit longer into the season.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:11 pm to
I still think Brennan takes the first snap of the year but he will have a very short leash. His first sign of underperforming and Daniels will be coming in.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:17 pm to
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You can't control quitters. You can control giving every guy a fair shake and then playing the best one. Playing someone because you're scared they're gonna transfer is stupid.
I think you’re misunderstanding me.

You’re not playing them because you’re scared they’re going to transfer. You’re playing them to see if you even want them. And only under certain circumstances. It’s not “OMG, he may transfer! Throw him in against Bama!”

You don’t have to even be concerned about them transferring because you will know what you have with them and their competition. They will have a good idea of plans going foreword. It’s not unlike what already happens honestly. Usually if the season is out of reach, you try to start evaluating your roster, no? “Let’s see what player X, Y, Z can do.” And you get to see it in a full speed, full contact setting.

If Brennan is the best choice, more than likely we’ll be pretty good anyway. So just keep rolling with Brennan. But if it’s a close competition and things are looking pretty mediocre, start evaluating for 2023. Why would you not do that? So you can maybe salvage a cheeze it bowl appearance?
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 7:26 pm
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:27 pm to
I think all three are going to get some time. Unless Brennan transfers in the next week or he’s balling out. And we’re winning.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12846 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:27 pm to
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If I’m Kelly, I’m giving all three significant playing time this year. Start the 2023 competition now. Unless we have ny6 bowl potential. Which would be amazing, but I’m not holding my breath.

The one who is not the projected starter next year is the one who’s going to transfer. Very likely that someone transfers after the season this year. Kind of like Johnson did. I would rather have a better idea who is going to play in 2023, let them know, and then let the other guy transfer. Instead of risking the better qb transferring. also gets your starter for next year a lot of experience.

This implies that the coaches don’t know what they have by the end of fall camp. I don’t want to see 3 QBs getting playing time. To me that means either A) someone got injured or B) we weren’t able to sort out the order of the depth chart in spring + fall camp.

You need a clear pecking order because at some point you have to start prioritizing reps in practice.

I get that it’s a “rebuilding year” but the staff should be doing what it takes to win now, not looking forward to 2023. And frankly that’s exactly what I expect this staff to do. The upcoming season is going to be pretty critical for the program from a momentum standpoint. We can afford to lose a few games but another .500 season under a new staff could set the program back big time.

Also, if Brennan does end up starting then chances are your #2 QB in 2022 is the starter next year - you want that guy getting as many game reps as he can, which is already difficult without splitting the reps 3 ways. If that leads to the #3 guy transferring out, so be it. Unfortunately that’s the nature of the beast nowadays.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14706 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:30 pm to
I believe Kelly will know, without any doubt, who should be starting, by the Florida State game.
There is no doubt Nuss has made more improvement over last season.
If he continues to progress at that rate, there is no doubt who will be the starter.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:35 pm to
It’s just hard to not want Myles’ arm talent and size with the receiving talent we have. Daniels is not nearly as good of a pure passer as Brennan or Nuss are. I love that he can run but I want someone to get the ball to our playmakers first and foremost.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65787 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:36 pm to
Kind of agree with Kelly, here. I was thinking it’s clearly Brennen and Daniels in the running, but Nuss just looked better, and had the best day from my untrained eyes; better placement and touch, and made quicker decisions on pre-snap reads. Daniels with his legs, are the big wild card, here…
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7270 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:39 pm to
Long term, its better if Brennan wins out. He will be one and done and the young guys will not feel threatened. If Nuss wins out, Howard may be looking elsewhere in the Spring.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:40 pm to
I agree 100%. This is based on if we are NOT winning now.

And I know the thought of us having a rebuilding year sucks. But we really don’t know what we have at this point. This roster is so new. Maybe I’m thinking a little ahead and this is a conversation for when we’re into the season. And it’s really only a factor if the competition is close. Which that’s kind of what the thread is about. That could of course be different after fall camp. I’m just saying coaches have to consider that QBs can leave in November now when they’re evaluating. Which is insane.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 7:40 pm to
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#teamwhoeverthecoacheschoose
Sign me up.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:01 pm to
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Long term, its better if Brennan wins out. He will be one and done and the young guys will not feel threatened. If Nuss wins out, Howard may be looking elsewhere in the Spring.
I think the fact that Kelly was able to put this QB room together in the current college football climate says a lot about him and his ability to control the roster. It’s not like it used to be. We saw Ed destroy over half of one in the blink of an eye. So I feel good about how it’s going to be handled.
Posted by AngelBaby
Heaven
Member since Nov 2007
278 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:13 pm to
Haven’t seen a single play, but can Daniels be our Taysom???
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:20 pm to
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think the fact that Kelly was able to put this QB room together in the current college football climate says a lot about him and his ability to control the roster


Excellent observation!
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:25 pm to
ACCURACY AND ABILITY TO READ A D are most important.

wheels and superior arm strength are added bonuses.

NUSS was always good at running RPO in high school. go back and watch his videos
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47909 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:36 pm to
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I think the fact that Kelly was able to put this QB room together in the current college football climate says a lot about him and his ability to control the roster. It’s not like it used to be.
This is my take as well. I think BK is giving everyone a fair shot regardless of what TD thinks. He also doesn’t want to not give that shake and have a QB transfer when he could win the job.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32941 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:37 pm to
If a RSfr is neck and neck with 2 upperclassmen then you go with the youngster imo

You get more by starting him now, he’ll be primed and ready for a big sophomore year
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