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re: We need to talk about the Golden Girls-Tiger Girls feud
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:57 am to bfniii
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:57 am to bfniii
quote:I'd love to see a "Southeastern Conference Marching Band Competition" at the end of the season. (Maybe have it the same day before the SEC Championship game)
it's freaking college marching band. it's not dci. it's not winter guard. hell, it's not even lousiana showcase. it's just for fun.
I'm talking about a scoring competition with DCI judges using the exact same scoring criteria as DCI.
I'd honestly like to see where Tiger Band would wind up.
"In 6th Place, with a score of 89.95. 89.95. The Louisiana State University Golden Band from Tiger Land."
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:14 am to Irish LSU Fan
quote:
asked that question for a reason. Much of the criticism of Coach O is that he does not have an adequate resume to qualify for the LSU job. The same applies to Dennis and Damon. Damon was a band director at a school with no football and Dennis was a band director at a high school with 20 kids in the band. This is why I'm more than queezy about their leadership.
This is LSU. We need a "Marching Band Nick Saban" leading Tiger Band. (Ken Bodiford at Jacksonville State) The current Band Administration Structure needs to return to the previous where the head "Director of Bands" is also the head director of Tiger Band and Wind Ensemble, with the Associate DOB and Assistant DOB doing Symphonic Band & Concert Band. (And assisting with Tiger Band)
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:37 am to Irish LSU Fan
quote:yes. they are silly. however, you are acting like i'm saying tiger band doesn't deserve recognition for being great. that's not the case. frank and linda put a product on the field that was as good or better than any other college band. granted, they had a favorable situation but, they still executed it well enough to deserve recognition.
You can dismiss all of these accolades if you choose
quote:i've explained it. i'm sorry you don't understand
it makes you sound very foolish
quote:perhaps with a shotgun? they can't force people to audition. why is that so hard for you to understand? i'm not saying they aren't recruiting hard enough. i'm asking you to prove that they aren't and you're not doing it yet you keep insisting that they aren't.
MUST GO OUT AND FIND WHAT YOU NEED
quote:different eras. different priorities for people. you're not comparing apples to apples.
That is how they had the outstanding numbers in the band
quote:so you're admitting i was right. thank you
Anyone can make a car on the field or spell words
quote:and? what's your point? i sat front and center sat and didn't see any problems. i saw far less waterfall, follow the leader, lazy writing, than frank and linda put out there.
Halftime drill is NOT what is printed on the page, it's what 's INBETWEEN the pages! In other words, it's the movement.
quote:well then you can relax. tiger band looks great and sounds great. i personally don't want the gg feature to disappear and if i get the chance to make my voice heard, i will say something (not that anyone important will listen to me). the numbers? i have no idea. is it because the som is stealing the scholarships as some have suggested? maybe. if so, that should stop. are they not recruiting hard enough? i have no idea. if not, they need to step it up.
This is why I'm more than queezy about their leadership
quote:i'm not the only one and it's because you have an obvious bias based on unfounded assumptions. stop doing that and maybe your points will be more substantive
you don't respect my opinion
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:44 am to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:i acknowledged that other programs have been catching up. they took note of lsu's stipend and started raising their own.
Auburn’s band is just as good as Tiger Band
what i heard on the field sat, no one is going to sound better. maybe as good. but tiger band sounded as good as it gets.
this discussion is much ado about nothing. it's college band. tiger band is fine. they don't even have to be the best. just put something entertaining out there. some people are making a mountain out of a molehill
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:47 am to kkv75
quote:come on now. they don't sound NEARLY as good as tiger band, at least not the times i've heard them live. drumline and color guard in the big10 tend to be antiquated because they are still closer to military style than sec groups.
Ohio State but they have the greatest band ever seen
their product is entertaining. that's what counts. fun to watch.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:50 am to Jim Rockford
Of course we comin.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:52 am to semjase
quote:i wouldn't. it undermines the nature of college band - FUN. competition is hard. lots of work. lots of practice. lots of pressure. when we came back from summer corps, the last thing we wanted was for tiger band to be serious
"Southeastern Conference Marching Band Competition"
we already have all that in spades; dci, high school, wgi. dci is already essentially college age marching competition
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:01 am to bfniii
quote:
what i heard on the field sat, no one is going to sound better. maybe as good. but tiger band sounded as good as it gets.
I never said that their quality has gone down, but they are not nearly as loud as they used to be, and that's a fact. I don't know if the reduction in the number of brass is an intentional one, but it has affected their power of sound.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:05 am to Irish LSU Fan
quote:If you are an actual talented dancer, it makes zero sense to do golden girls
The Tiger Girls now have more girls show up at their auditions than the Golden Girls. That says a lot. A former Golden Girl (from 2014) told me it was common to have over 100 girls at tryouts. She told me this year had around 45 at tryouts! Something is wrong with this picture.
The Golden Girls are possibly on a downward spiral with the current Golden Band regime because they do not believe in Golden Girl features as part of the halftime show. The Golden Girls (and their alumni) are VERY upset about this. Last year, not a single halftime show featured the Golden Girls!
Tiger Girls actually get treated as athletes (get athlete tickets, study hall, and members of L club)
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:45 am to Irish LSU Fan
quote:
They were cutting about 100 students every year just to get to 325! THAT IS NOT HAPPENING NOW
I can't remember which year it was, but somewhere in the 2006-2008 range, they had a year where they only cut a single person from preseason.
So this was already happening under the old regime.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:45 am to bfniii
Check the time....you're late for your staff meeting with Damon.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:12 am to Jim Rockford
I sat next to a Golden Girl in my 1981 geography class. She was beautiful in that beautiful for 40 years brunette way. That being said the Tigers Girls should win this fight.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:06 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
I can only speak to 2006 in the range you mention (2002-2006 member) but there was definitely more than 1 instrumentalist cut. More than 30. I don't remember specifics beyond that because most cuts happened in woodwinds, and I was a brass player. We might have only cut one from my section that year. (I'm also not counting GGs and CG here, which would bump the number up a bit.)
Let's stick with facts here.
Let's stick with facts here.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:20 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:
I asked that question for a reason. Much of the criticism of Coach O is that he does not have an adequate resume to qualify for the LSU job. The same applies to Dennis and Damon. Damon was a band director at a school with no football and Dennis was a band director at a high school with 20 kids in the band. This is why I'm more than queezy about their leadership.
I am not sure about Llinas. You are partially correct about Talley, that he was band director at a school with no football right before he came to LSU. However, right before that he was on the faculty at the Univ of Texas as assistant director of the Longhorn Band ....and before that he was on the faculty at Univ of Michigan as assistant director of the Michigan Marching Band. Just how many different major college marching bands does the dude have to be one of the directors of to qualify as knowing something about marching band?? Do tell.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:46 pm to tigerbandlover
quote:
I am not sure about Llinas.
I am. I did a youtube search for the high school he taught at in Miami for 2 years. about 30 in the band in year one and about 15 for year two. Not good.
My point about Damon is that his FIRST D1 college director job ever is LSU. He has NEVER been the head guy for ANY college marching band. BTW...being an assistant director of the marching band at Texas or Michigan means he was either the third or fourth guy at those schools. I think LSU deserves better.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:34 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:38 pm to kkv75
quote:
Proof is in the video. Sorry.
Good band, but not the "best damn band in the land" as they proclaim.
Sorry.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:40 pm to Irish LSU Fan
I was in Tiger Band under Wickes and Roy and had Llinas as an assistant and head of Bengal Brass. He knows his stuff. He’s a much more professional band director than Roy, but lacks the iron-fisted discipline of Linda. He’s a pretty good middle ground.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 4:19 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:
99% of my info is from Frank Wickes and the other 1% is from reading Roy's lawsuit (which LSU was quick to settle).
Bovee? Is that you?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 4:19 pm to Thorny
quote:
Frank Wickes was a great recruiter. He got a lot of great players out of Florida and the D.C. area that would have never come to LSU.
this is very true
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