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re: We don't have to look any further.....we have our coach!!
Posted on 10/23/16 at 4:48 pm to Awlunz Tiger
Posted on 10/23/16 at 4:48 pm to Awlunz Tiger
What's your rush to decision?
One of the first lessons that professional decision-makers learn is... "Don't make decisions until they need to be made. Having more info always makes for a better decision. More time usually leads to more info."
This is a classic case of that. Just relax and enjoy the info every week.
One of the first lessons that professional decision-makers learn is... "Don't make decisions until they need to be made. Having more info always makes for a better decision. More time usually leads to more info."
This is a classic case of that. Just relax and enjoy the info every week.
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 4:48 pm to Awlunz Tiger
Neaux
Posted on 10/23/16 at 4:55 pm to Sir Fury
Agreed. I would support coach O all the way. Spend the extra $$ on bammer strength & condit coach Scott Cochran.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 5:15 pm to tigerwith3
How bout you judge him on his record as interim coach at LSU? Everything looks better than it did under Miles. And I liked Les Miles.
O has a chance to be a legend at LSU. We screwed the pooch by not giving him the reins at SC. He is an even better fit at LSU. I hope LSU makes the right decision based on what he has done there, instead of what somebody "might do".
Good luck against Bama.
O has a chance to be a legend at LSU. We screwed the pooch by not giving him the reins at SC. He is an even better fit at LSU. I hope LSU makes the right decision based on what he has done there, instead of what somebody "might do".
Good luck against Bama.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 5:19 pm to Awlunz Tiger
He is from south of I-10 and a Cajun...that is all the qualifications he needs!
Posted on 10/23/16 at 5:47 pm to bencoleman
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Slow down. We really don't know yet if LSU is playing any better. I mean it's just ole piss. Hell anybody could've coached LSU to victory over the last three creampuffs.
I'm sick of these moving goal posts.
Well it's only Mizzou let's wait till we play a real offense.
Well it's only southern miss let's wait till we play a REAL SEC team.
Well it's only Ole Miss let's wait till we play a really real SEC team.
What's it going to be November 6th?
Well Bama is over rated and Hurts sucks let's wait till we beat a real qb.
Well it's only A&M and the sec is obviously down this year let's wait till the playoffs.
frick yall and your waiting I'm having fun now. I'm not saying go ahead and crown O just yet but frick just enjoy what's happening right now. Quit all the damn waiting
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 10/23/16 at 6:02 pm to Sir Fury
Why would you disregard his prior HC history ? That's the most important thing we have to go on. I'm all for improving and second chances, but he can do that at a middle tier program first, no reason for LSU to take that risk.
He's a great interim and a great recruiter because that fits his personality. I see nothing on his resume that shows he's a great X's and O's coach. People love that he's letting his assistants coach-mainly because miles didn't, not bc that's some great quality that everybody wants in a HC. He'd be too dependent on having good assistants and good assistants don't stick around, they move on to their own HC jobs. He's great where he is now, but not the long term solution. We need a detail oriented guy, a good schematic coach, something we've been missing and need to compete with the Sabans and Meyers of the world.
Let coach o prove himself at ULL or somewhere like that before giving him the keys to the Ferrari.
He's a great interim and a great recruiter because that fits his personality. I see nothing on his resume that shows he's a great X's and O's coach. People love that he's letting his assistants coach-mainly because miles didn't, not bc that's some great quality that everybody wants in a HC. He'd be too dependent on having good assistants and good assistants don't stick around, they move on to their own HC jobs. He's great where he is now, but not the long term solution. We need a detail oriented guy, a good schematic coach, something we've been missing and need to compete with the Sabans and Meyers of the world.
Let coach o prove himself at ULL or somewhere like that before giving him the keys to the Ferrari.
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 10/23/16 at 6:10 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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loweralabamatrojan
Finally a voice of reason, I bet USC wishes they could have that one back right now. I hope LSU doesn't make the same mistake.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 6:13 pm to bencoleman
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lowerALABAMAtrojan
I don't trust this guy.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 6:16 pm to Awlunz Tiger
I wish we had a place to discuss coaching changes...like a board of some sort to post our thoughts on. Admins should really get on that.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 6:26 am to CottonWasKing
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Well Bama is over rated and Hurts sucks
I agree, beating bama is really not going to show whether this team is very good or not. Dang, I wish they had a team with a pulse on the schedule this year.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:41 am to ChenierauTigre
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O too. No other coach is going to have the bond with the players and fans and recruits. It is magical. Every time O speaks to the media, at the end he always says Geaux Tigers. He is one of us, he gets it. That chemistry is something special.
Reasons to keep O
He says Geaux Tigers.
He wants the job more.
He's one of us.
He sounds like us. (Well, between the group of LSU grads I was with this weekend and the group I'm working with today, none of them sound like him and none are from south of I10)
Good motivator
Good recruiter
Reasons not to retain O
In his only experience as a head coach he was a dismal failure
Other then that dismal stint at ole miss, the interim stint at USC and LSU, he has never even been a coordinator. Defensive line coach.
That's his resume. Career DL coach and train wreck at ole miss.
And for you guys pushing O and saying no to Herman, if O would have had the success at ole miss that Herman has had at houston. He'd probly still be there.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 8:44 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Why would you disregard his prior HC history ? That's the most important thing we have to go on. I'm all for improving and second chances, but he can do that at a middle tier program first, no reason for LSU to take that risk. He's a great interim and a great recruiter because that fits his personality. I see nothing on his resume that shows he's a great X's and O's coach. People love that he's letting his assistants coach-mainly because miles didn't, not bc that's some great quality that everybody wants in a HC. He'd be too dependent on having good assistants and good assistants don't stick around, they move on to their own HC jobs. He's great where he is now, but not the long term solution. We need a detail oriented guy, a good schematic coach, something we've been missing and need to compete with the Sabans and Meyers of the world. Let coach o prove himself at ULL or somewhere like that before giving him the keys to the Ferrari.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:09 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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I don't trust this guy.
No pretense from me, I'm just a long time USC fan who wishes we'd given Coach O a shot. There were a lot of USC fans at the time who said the same stuff LSU fans are saying now "We need a tried and tested coach... Look at his history... "Keys to the Ferrari" etc. Point being, we should have kept him. He's a throwback fire in the belly kinda guy, and everybody at SC loved him except the people that mattered when it came to retaining him.
Look at what happened to us. OK we had some sanctions, Lane Kiffin and 7-Gin Sark to deal with, but still, O would have kept up recruiting, kept the players hyped, and even the band fired up. He's just not the pinky finger in the air type and doesn't mix well with them.
I've never really rooted for LSU before, but long as he is at the helm I'm on the Tiger bandwagon. Geaux Tigers and Geaux Coach O!
Posted on 10/26/16 at 11:11 am to Mike da Tigah
" you want a coach who doesn't want the job? "
I want a coach who has proven himself to be highly successful as a HC. I am not all that taken with the idea of turning the LSU football program over to a position coach who in the past failed pretty badly as a head coach.
I am sorry, but Coach O wanting the gig doesn't rank all that high with me. I am sure the line of guys wanting the job goes out the door and around the block.
There is a big difference between wanting the job and deserving the job. imo
That doesn't mean if coach O gets the job I will come here stomping my feet and crying like a spoiled 2 yr old. It just means I think we should be able to do better. I felt the same way with our last basketball hire.
I want a coach who has proven himself to be highly successful as a HC. I am not all that taken with the idea of turning the LSU football program over to a position coach who in the past failed pretty badly as a head coach.
I am sorry, but Coach O wanting the gig doesn't rank all that high with me. I am sure the line of guys wanting the job goes out the door and around the block.
There is a big difference between wanting the job and deserving the job. imo
That doesn't mean if coach O gets the job I will come here stomping my feet and crying like a spoiled 2 yr old. It just means I think we should be able to do better. I felt the same way with our last basketball hire.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 11:17 am to bencoleman
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Slow down. We really don't know yet if LSU is playing any better. I mean it's just ole piss. Hell anybody could've coached LSU to victory over the last three creampuffs.
Anybody not named Les Miles.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 11:39 am to loweralabamatrojan
" OK we get some sanctions. "
You can thank Pete Carroll and reggie Bush for that and the sanctions you got were not nearly as bad as you deserved.
LK hadn't proven anything as a HC other than he was able to stir shite up. The fact that you had to settle on him, shows you the impact the name coaches had to the sanctions you are making light of now.
Bottom line, It's damn hard to replace a highly successful football coach whether or not some want to admit it.
You can thank Pete Carroll and reggie Bush for that and the sanctions you got were not nearly as bad as you deserved.
LK hadn't proven anything as a HC other than he was able to stir shite up. The fact that you had to settle on him, shows you the impact the name coaches had to the sanctions you are making light of now.
Bottom line, It's damn hard to replace a highly successful football coach whether or not some want to admit it.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 11:41 am to purpleandgoldhaze
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How about we tap the brakes a bit and wait and see? With Coach O, the LSU admin has the rare opportunity to evaluate a candidate's real-time performance and fit before offering the job. If he wins out, then hiring him to be our permanent head coach will be a no-brainer. If he doesn't win out, but is competitive in every game, then the decision will be harder. Alleva will have to weigh his options carefully, and I hope he will explore those options fully. I wouldn't rule out Coach O, but I wouldn't narrow the search before this season is over.
This. Last year at this time we were flying high with a Heisman trophy candidate who was averaging insane numbers and were undefeated. Playing the November teams showed us where we were under the administration at the time. Coach O will need to hire an OC and really hasn't proven to be a good evaluator of his potential assistants like some of the other guys who are currently head coaches have shown to be able to do.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:16 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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You can thank Pete Carroll and reggie Bush for that and the sanctions you got were not nearly as bad as you deserved.
I don't blame either of those guys as much as I blame the NCAA. "Not nearly as bad as you deserved" is laughable. 30 scholarships over that 5 year period is ridiculous for offenses involving one player's family with their hands out. Bush was no Saint (well he was actually, with that whole NOLA winning the Superbowl thing) but if you say that most if not all big time CF players don't take "improper benefits" then you're living in a dreamworld.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:20 pm to Awlunz Tiger
So much rush to judgement on this board...
I'm not against it yet, but I'm not sold either.
I can definitely see improvement, but with the current team that should be the absolute minimum! Let's finish the season first and please stop this until we see a full body of work.
I can imagine 3-4 loss seasons in the near future if LSU makes the wrong call here. Then what?
I'm not against it yet, but I'm not sold either.
I can definitely see improvement, but with the current team that should be the absolute minimum! Let's finish the season first and please stop this until we see a full body of work.
I can imagine 3-4 loss seasons in the near future if LSU makes the wrong call here. Then what?
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 2:22 pm
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