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re: Watched the replay of Troy game without bias
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:28 am to Dave England
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:28 am to Dave England
It's mind boggling that people fail to grasp that concept. So, the coaches didn't notice a lack of effort all week leading up to the game?
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:30 am to atltiger6487
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So it's the mental/motivational preparation that we're talking about here.
Exactly and motivation is supposed to be what Orgeron excels at.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:33 am to atltiger6487
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But successful coaches are able to get their teams to play at a high level of intensity every game. Not lay an egg against Troy.
See Saban vs. ULM. Did he have that team prepared? I mean was Bama any less talented than LSU.
These kinds of losses happen every few decades. Unfortunately, it happened to a coach that was already under heavy criticism for being hired in the first place.
Not to mention the fact that Troy has given us fits in the past.
Hell Saban only beat them by 3 in 2004 in a 9-3 season.
And we know what happened in 08.
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:33 am to BDJ
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I get so tired of the “team wasn’t prepared bullshite”. You can only prepare a team so much. There is only so much film you can watch. There is only so much you can do in practice.
I think People are saying we didn’t do enough of that. While sure there is a hypothetical limit, it doesn’t appear like we got close to it.
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At the end of the day, the players go on the field and have to execute. They did not. The coaches didn’t make brossette fumble. The players overlooked Troy and paid the price for it.
Again, motivating and keeping the team focused is part of th HCs job.
Also in game adjustments.
It looked like we didn’t have either in the first half against Troy.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:34 am to RedTigerRulz
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I mean was Bama any less talented than LSU.
Yes
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:35 am to SammyTiger
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It looked like we didn’t have either in the first half against Troy.
We didn't and we spotted a decent team a big lead and they made it stand up. Case closed.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:36 am to TigerLunatik
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Yes
They're Bama. They're an SEC team. You think their fans felt they were on ULM's level?
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:37 am to RedTigerRulz
That's an entirely different question than the one I answered.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:39 am to TigerLunatik
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That's an entirely different question than the one I answered.
I get that but the fact is....A Bama should never lose to A ULM...but it happened.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:40 am to RedTigerRulz
I agree. IMO, the Troy loss is more egregious because the '17 LSU team and the players on thag team came to LSU with the realistic expectation of immediately competing for an SEC Championship. The Bama team that lost to ULM was not at that level.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:46 am to TigerLunatik
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The Bama team that lost to ULM was not at that level.
Sooooo.....you're gonna give Saban a pass on that? Despite the storied tradition of a powerhouse like Bama?
Come on man...can't have it both ways.
If O had lost that game 3/4 years into a relatively successful tenure at LSU, would the loss have been any more palatable?
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:48 am to RedTigerRulz
No pass at all. That's why I said I agree in my post in response to you saying it shouldn't happen.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:53 am to RedTigerRulz
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Sooooo.....you're gonna give Saban a pass on that? Despite the storied tradition of a powerhouse like Bama?
Come on man...can't have it both ways.
It's kind of an apples to oranges comparison though. We weren't coming off a losing record and recovering from recruiting sanctions like Bama was.
I'm not excusing either loss, but that Bama team was way different than ours was last year.
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 9:55 am
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:55 am to nvasil1
I think that sums up the situation about as well as possible.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:42 am to TigerLunatik
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The Bama team that lost to ULM was not at that level.
Alabama was coming off two of three years with a non-winning record and an NCAA investigation. LSU was coming off two nationally ranked teams and top five recruiting classes.
The level some go to excuse the O frick ups are laughable and only shows how out of touch they are with reality.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:59 am to la_birdman
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Yeah, they just went out there and made dumb mistakes. Almost like they had no head coach to guide them.
The same shite used to happen under Miles. We struggled against Troy in 2008. We struggled against Towson State a few years back. I remember some yeas back we allowed ULL to get too close in a game. Saban allowed an undermanned UAB team to outplay in 2000. DiNardo allowed a Houston team to beat him in 1999 after allowing them to almost beat him in 1996
This happens more than we care to admit. I personally think that e players and the fans don't fire themselves up for these games, expect to win easily and then have to be reminded that no one told the other guys they were supposed to roll over
Posted on 7/24/18 at 11:13 am to KiwiHead
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I remember some yeas back we allowed ULL to get too close in a game.
You must be thinking of some other team because ULL has never even scored a touchdown on us. Never.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:44 pm to RedTigerRulz
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I mean was Bama any less talented than LSU.
yes, yes they were.
2007 alabama was coming off sanctions.
2017 LSU had lost a lot, but still had 50 blue chips on the roster. thats 50 more than Troy had, and 34 more than mississippi state had.
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Unfortunately, it happened to a coach that was already under heavy criticism for being hired in the first pla
and its just mere coincidence in your mind? its not at all possible that the two are related??
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And we know what happened in 08.
do we? because I am not so sure.
I know that I know what happened. I know LSU went down by 4 TDs to a sun belt team , in tiger stadium, in november, in the 40 degree cold with nothing left to play for having already lost to bama.
And then they came back.
And then Miles got ROASTED on here for overseeing such a piss poor performance in which LSU WON. they fcking won. and this board lost its collective shite.
Now here we are, nearly 10 months after the Troy game, and you fcktards still want to try and be like "welp , shite hapz bro." its simultaneously equal parts fascinating and infuriating.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:49 pm to KiwiHead
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This happens more than we care to admit
No.
No. No. No. No. No.
it happenED more frequently 20 years ago, when LSU was going through the worst decade of football ever. find me another decade where LSU posted consecutive losing seasons.
If you are an LSU student right now, that means you were likely born sometime between 1996 and 2000. you literally do not know what its like to experience a losing season. LSU had 4 of those in the 90s.
so yeah, talking about DiNardo losing to mid majors, or Saban losing to one in year one of inheriting a 3-9 team, is not the same as O inheriting the team he did.
Yes Miles struggled very often. Watching his teams play down to their opponents was very frustrating. I myself made it a habit of saying that LSU was so talented, they won in spite of their coach, not because of him. but if I had known I would have to choose between winning ugly or losing ugly, I think I know which one I would pick.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:53 pm to Dave England
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And then Miles got ROASTED on here for overseeing such a piss poor performance in which LSU WON. they fcking won. and this board lost its collective shite.
similarly I dont understand how LSU's win over Florida last year is not celebrated by many on here. Its used as a mark against O.
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