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re: Wade worst coach of big three.

Posted on 12/13/18 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 3:42 pm to
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Basketball isn't like football. Basketball can be turned about almost instantly.





This isnt true. This is some bullshite myth. CBB programs dont go from dumpster fire to great instantly.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 3:44 pm to
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Dude, Wade sucks get over it.


Oh the irony.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93675 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 3:48 pm to
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We will get em next year

Well this doesn't make sense. You should read the replies before commenting. Coach Cal had a team with a lot of the same issues this LSU team is having, but still managed to make the Final Four. Your entire take on the basketball team through 1/3 of the season is simply ignorant.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:26 pm to
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This isnt true. This is some bullshite myth. CBB programs dont go from dumpster fire to great instantly.


Tennessee did w Bruce Pearl. Went from two straight losing seasons and 61-59 over a 4 yea stretch to winning the east in year 1 and b2b sweet 16s in years 2 and 3. Year 3, they won the SEC, went 31-5 and were a 2 seed in the NCAAT

UNC was dreadful under Matt Doherty. Roy Willians won a national title in year 2.

John Calipari turned around Memphis immediately, winning the CUSA in year 2

It’s not a myth at all.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278324 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:31 pm to
Pearl ran a dirty program
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:34 pm to
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Pearl ran a dirty program

At Tennessee? Not really. No dirtier than most programs. His lineup was not full of blue chip guys when he got there and he won with those guys. He knows how to coach
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278324 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:38 pm to
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The allegations, which Tennessee has until May 21 to answer, have been widely reported and include hosting a recruit at Pearl’s home for a barbecue, lying about the recruit’s presence at the party to an N.C.A.A. investigator and 96 impermissible telephone calls to recruits by Pearl and his staff.

The new charge against Pearl is an alleged improper contact on Sept. 14, 2010, with Jordan Adams, who was a junior basketball player at Oak Hill Academy in Virginia. The N.C.A.A. alleges that Pearl and the assistant coach Tony Jones had a two- to three-minute conversation with Adams before an Oak Hill practice.



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Last summer, Pearl was docked $1.5 million in pay over five years and barred from recruiting off campus for a year. He was also suspended for eight games this season by the Southeastern Conference. Mike Hamilton, the Tennessee athletic director, has said the university would retain Pearl unless other serious violations were revealed.



Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:41 pm to
You realize what he actually did isn’t even impermissible anymore right? He was punished for lying to the NCAA about it, not because what he did was “dirty”. Had he not lied, nothing comes from it. But you knew that already
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24268 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:51 pm to
I bet Will wouldn't have trotted the field goal unit out there though against Bama down 22-0 in the 4th quarter if he was coaching the football team.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278324 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:01 pm to
IT doesn’t matter if it’s legal now but if everyone was playing against the rules then & he wasn’t of course he has an edge. I think he’s a good coach but cmon
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16410 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:05 pm to
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This board has BEEN full retard.


FIFY
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:22 pm to
Chill dude! We lost on the road to a very good team! It happens when you have a lot of youngster players out there playing!
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34711 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:33 pm to
Dude frickin Ed O is our football coach. I’m not sure it’s possible to have a worse big 3 coach if we tried to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:34 pm to
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IT doesn’t matter if it’s legal now but if everyone was playing against the rules then & he wasn’t of course he has an edge. I think he’s a good coach but cmon


He had a kid to a bbq and made too many phone calls. You c'mon. Do you really define that as "dirty" especially when talking about basketball of all sports? You know good and damn well what he did was nothing, he was just stupid and tried to lie about it. It's no worse than the type of stuff we self report all the time. Or do you just want to persist with a dumb argument for the sake of arguing. The entire point wasn't even to debate how dirty was but to point out that good coaches can and do turn around basketball programs very quickly. That is not a myth as the poster I responded to asserted. And it's just common sense by the nature of the sport compared to others.

And these "dirty" things Bruce Pearl did happened years after he got there. I said he turned around Tennessee in year 1. You respond with something he did 5 years later
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93675 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:36 pm to
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Dude frickin Ed O is our football coach. I’m not sure it’s possible to have a worse big 3 coach if we tried to

I guess you missed the bowl announcements. LSU is going to a New Year's Six bowl in the Fiesta and they're ranked #11 by the Playoff Committee.
Posted by LSURandomNumbers
Member since Oct 2018
491 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:49 pm to
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The only big 3 coach we've ever had with more success than Paul Mainieri is Skip Bertman.


So much fail
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:57 pm to
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So much fail

prove me wrong
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93675 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:59 pm to
He can't because you're right.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5482 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:30 pm to
Well I guess the whole honeymoon thing is over right?

Posted by LSURandomNumbers
Member since Oct 2018
491 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:05 pm to
In an earlier post you tried to say PM had more success than LM. And I quote...

quote:

Miles did not have more success than Mainieri has. 4 SEC Titles, 6 SECT titles, 5 CWS appearances, 1 national title, 1 national title runner up. Miles had 2 SEC titles, 3 major bowl appearances, 1 national title, 1 runner up finish.


You logic is completely flawed because you are throwing in completely irrelevant accomplishments for PM. An example of such is SEC baseball tournament titles. That is like comparing individual national championships for a track coach to team titles for a football coach. They do not correlate whatsoever. Therefore you have to eliminate SEC tournament titles from the comparison because LM never had or was given the opportunity to achieve any similar type of achievement.

Your next fallacy is crediting PM with CWS appearances. For the sake of this, i’m going to assume that you are going to say that “major bowls” are comparable to CWS appearances. However that is a flawed logic as the old bowl system under the BCS had 6 of its 8 spots tied to conference champions. Therefore it was not an accurate measure of the top 8 teams in college football as CWS is a good measure of the top 8 teams in college baseball. If you would have bothered to look at the number of top 8 finishes LM had in his career at LSU, you would have found that LM had 5 top 8 finishes in 10+ seasons. Meanwhile, PM has 5 CWS in 12 seasons which correlate to top 8 finishes.

The next fallacy is that you are conveniently leaving out the negatives of PM’s career. Never once did LM fail to make the postseason at LSU. PM failed to make the postseason twice while at LSU. Only once did LM not have a winning conference record while at LSU. PM had four such seasons without a winning record in conference play. It’s convenient how you left those out of your comparison.

Lastly and maybe most importantly, LM had a higher overall winning percentage than PM. Spare me the “it’s baseball though” narrative. I could write an entire book on how LSU has such a major competitive advantage in the niche sport that is known as college baseball. Being that only about 10 schools actually give a flying frick about the sport, you would think PM would have a more dominant record. However, PM has proven he is the king of throwing in crappy seasons every couple of years. Which oh by the way, LM never had. LM was fired for going 9-3 which is a better career winning percentage than what PM has at LSU.

For my next prove you wrong, which was hella easy by the way, I might do a break down of Harry Rabenhorst. However, I may end up calling it a day as you are probably too dense to understand and digest that I just owned you.
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