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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:15 am to
Posted by ncg4forsure
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2011
124 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:15 am to
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Heresay most likely, and not a good sample. If I were a cop, my first ? would be directed to the establishment, asking what happened here? Not some drunk fricking teenagers. What say you?


They obviously interviewed them as well
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26293 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:27 am to
What a bunch of idiots this thread has brought out. Slackster made a very good post that everyone should read.

I am amazed how many assholes here are pissed at JJ because he went to a bar on LSU football players skip day. It isn't illegal to go to a bar so quit acting like going to a bar is grounds for JJ to be kicked off the team.

The video in the original post isn't as clear as the first video of the fight that was lightened up an post. You can clearly see a guy kick lowery wearing a black shirt in that video. This video I can't make out shite.

I can't tell that the guy in the white shirt inside the bar is even JJ. Hell to me he looks white.

It does clearly show that lowery is an a-hole and was stirring up shite with his ex girlfriend as has been alleged.

A guy in a white shirt approaches Lowery but it isn't clear from the video if he also kicked.

And stop making stupid comment about why doesn't JJ give up the real kicker. How do you know he hasn't? We all assumed the police think the dude in black is the kicker but maybe the police have ided JJ as the dude in white that kicked Lowery.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:35 am to
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Slackster made a very good post that everyone should read.



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And stop making stupid comment about why doesn't JJ give up the real kicker


I think this is a legitimate question.

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How do you know he hasn't?


And this is a legitimate answer. Most of us assume that JJ has been arrested for being the kicker, but perhaps he was involved in another way and he has already given up the name(s) of the kicker(s).
Posted by rmcc316
Here
Member since Feb 2004
44437 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:36 am to
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the victim was unconscience.


not when the police got there he wasn't according to the initial police report. no ambulance came, no one was taken to the hospital by the police, etc. if someone was THAT fricked up, they wouldn't be driving off.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:40 am to
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I honestly cant see shite.




I 2nd that.

I mean, we can see figures and movements to a degree, but how we say that we can see anything for sure such as a stomp or who is doing what is beyond me.

I don't see where the video or hear where the sound tells us much of anything.

The one inside the bar, if the people are labeled correctly, seem to show a easy going JJ not paying any attention to the disagreement between what's his name and the X-GF.

But if that's JJ, he's not all in black like the guy some here was saying was "fricked".

With what we know now, this case never sees a court room as a felony. imo

Posted by rmcc316
Here
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44437 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:41 am to
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Hell to me he looks white.


j. lee?

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:47 am to
They are as bad as we all think. Br is a small city with a high crime rate.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34425 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:49 am to
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Really?


yea really.

Not Jarret Lee


Jarvis Landry
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91320 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 12:57 am to
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Not Jarret Lee


Jarvis Landry



Can't we just wait one year before we start referring to Jarvis as JL?
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:04 am to
So the video obviously dispels the rumor from the bar employees that Lowery started everything by punching someone in the bar, right? Maybe thats why they arent being interviewed because they are liars?

Looks like Lowery and JJ both left without anyone being kicked out?

So the reports of a truck honking being the instigator seem to be more legit now?
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13829 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:09 am to
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So the video obviously dispels the rumor from the bar employees that Lowery started everything by punching someone in the bar, right?


No, they said that he was escorted out and then he was quickly in a fight. They specifically said that he was out of the bar when he started fighting and then one of the workers jumped on a truck or some shite to try to watch it
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65139 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:12 am to
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Looks like Lowery and JJ both left without anyone being kicked out?


There was a guy that looks like he pointed outside right at the end. Could be Security telling him to get, but who knows.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:13 am to
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So the reports of a truck honking being the instigator seem to be more legit now?



exactly. The issue with the girl has absolutely nothing to do with the fight as well.
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 1:14 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:13 am to
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No, they said that he was escorted out and then he was quickly in a fight

I didnt see any escorting. Saw what looked like friends walking out with him, but no one from the bar confronted him as was told to the media
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“When we were escorting Lowery out, you can see Jefferson right there and he has nothing to do with it,”

Looks like their own video caught them in at least one lie
Posted by geaux4tigers
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2006
970 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:36 am to
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So the video obviously dispels the rumor from the bar employees that Lowery started everything by punching someone in the bar, right? Maybe thats why they arent being interviewed because they are liars?


They said he started the fight outside, not inside.

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Looks like Lowery and JJ both left without anyone being kicked out?


It's pretty clear Lowery is being told to leave toward the end of the footage.

quote:

So the reports of a truck honking being the instigator seem to be more legit now?


That was a dog barking in the video, not a truck honking.

quote:


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“When we were escorting Lowery out, you can see Jefferson right there and he has nothing to do with it,”
Looks like their own video caught them in at least one lie


Are you blind? That's exactly what you see if you watch the video. Lowery is arguing the the girl, JJ is hugging another girl and leaves. Lowery is still there arguing when the bouncers from Shady's walk up to him and tell him to leave. The bouncers walk him out the door and then stay next to the door.
Posted by TigerFlask
Colorado
Member since Oct 2004
319 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:44 am to
You are forgetting that the "victims" or their conspirators also said that Jordan Jefferson was wearing all black and that he kicked the "sorry excuse for a marine" in the head. Based on what I have seen in this thread and what Jefferson's attorney has said, Jefferson did not kick anyone. I would challenge anything the victims say especially Lowery who seemed to be looking for a fight. He tried to fight a girl and ended up finding a fight with some folks who felt like they needed to finish it.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2070 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 1:45 am to
i thought the evidence against JJ was that there was another witness (not one of the 4 who got beat up) that put JJ at the scene and identified him as the kicker.

i can't make out jack from the videos.

JJ kicking the guy seems contrary to the kind of person that he is.

the lowrey guy seems to clearly be a jerk. if his GF was getting a restraining order against him, what is the DA or BRPD doing about the fact that he's clearly disregarding the restraining order?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135550 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 2:59 am to
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Him?

I know who THAT is. He's a fat white kid . . . .

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 4:27 am to
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New video surfaced showing JJ in a light shirt

Conclusions were made that JJ was wronged because the kicker had on a dark shirt

Rewatching of the video, and stills taken from the video reveal that the there was a 1st kicker who was on the left side of the vic, stomping down on the head, and was wearing a light shirt.

Everything is too blurry to make out. So basically, we're back to square one


this

quote:

Here's the pic: He's innocent.


he's innocent from doing what exactly?
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
5028 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:31 am to
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NC_Tigah
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