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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:40 am to
Posted by mtntiger
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:40 am to
Please forgive me if someone else has posted a similar thought regarding these new revelations, but I don't have time to read all 40 pages in this thread.

The thought just occurred to me: if JJ wasn't the kicker, then someone else on the team is. That means the low-life kicker is cool with JJ taking the fall for something JJ did not do. Whoever that person is needs to man up and face the music. I am NOT a JJ fan by any stretch, but no one should have to go through what he's going through if he did nothing.

Also, regardless of who the kicker is, Les needs to kick his arse to the curb for good if he ever finds out who it is. That's a pretty crappy thing to do to a teammate.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:49 am to
quote:

The thought just occurred to me: if JJ wasn't the kicker, then someone else on the team is.

The Beatles were perfect

God is perfect

therefor the Beatles are God.
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7133 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:50 am to
quote:

The thought just occurred to me: if JJ wasn't the kicker, then someone else on the team is.


And how do you know the person doing the kicking was a football player?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:52 am to
quote:

So the video obviously dispels the rumor from the bar employees that Lowery started everything by punching someone in the bar, right?


Perhaps

He certainly wasn't kicked out
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:55 am to
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It's pretty clear Lowery is being told to leave toward the end of the footage.


It's pretty clear you are making that up

And the point was he was said to be "escorted out" not told to leave

The first time we heard this story, he was escorted out TWICE...
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 5:56 am to
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You are forgetting that the "victims" or their conspirators also said that Jordan Jefferson was wearing all black


Link??
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:02 am to
quote:

JJ kicking the guy seems contrary to the kind of person that he is.


Really? And you know this how? IDK whether he played Kung Fu, shuffled around playing peacemaker in his slippers and PJ's or just pouted because he was taken out of the bar. LET THE LEGAL PROCESS WORK.

One rarely sees Unglesby brought in unless the accused thinks they are potentially in deep doo doo. I am so sick of this BS being the focus instead of the kids that weren't there prepping for the Ducks. If our fanbase can't talk about anything but the barfight, I can't wait to see the TV coverage.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:04 am to
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If our fanbase can't talk about anything but the barfight, I can't wait to see the TV coverage.


Just imagine if miles decides to play him this season.

The shite storm is brewing.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:07 am to
Doc, you still knighting for the glory hounds?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:25 am to
Negative

I think lowery is a douchebag from what I've seen and read

But he didn't beat himself up
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:28 am to
ok.....just checking.

IMHO, guy likely deserved to his arse whipped and probably is eating all this shite up. I've seen this shite all too many times......

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:33 am to
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IMHO, guy likely deserved to his arse whipped and probably is eating all this shite up.


While most likely true, it sucks if an LSU football player did it.

Especially if it's the starting senior qb just days away from the opening game that would have been the biggest game of his career.

If he really did it, it's selfish and utterly disrespectful to the rest of the team who go to great lengths to not do stupid shite like that.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23406 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:39 am to
several things are becoming clear in my opinion

-lowery's word is worth little to nothing
-the fight video could be any one of a thousand people kicking any one of a thousand other people. can't say it's JJ. can't say it's lowery.
-DNA might prove that JJ was there but doesn't necessarily prove a kick to the face
-case comes down to witness testimony to which there are reports of conflicting statements plus many of the witnesses were likely intoxicated

unless the BRPD has some sort of smoking gun evidence we're not privy to then JJ walks on this.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:43 am to
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evidence we're not privy to


I'm sure there's a lot we don't know
Posted by drexyl
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:46 am to
quote:

quote:
evidence we're not privy to


I'm sure there's a lot we don't know
like what? unless there's a much cleaner video of the fight or a highly credible witness what other evidence could there be for a bar fight that lasted probably less than 5 or 10 minutes?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23287 posts
Posted on 8/31/11 at 6:51 am to
quote:

I'm sure there's a lot we don't know


fixed: I'm hoping there's a lot we don't know, said Doc.

TheDoc is praying to God the only evidence isn't:

1)the police report
2)fight video
3)bar video
4)DNA evidence
This post was edited on 8/31/11 at 7:04 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 7:00 am to
quote:

TheDoc is praying to God


You know me so well!
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 7:01 am to
I see lots of posters in this thread posting the maximum 's allowable saying that the BRPD must have all of this other evidence I'm just curious what that might be.

a bar fight lasting 5 minutes in front of a bunch of intoxicated witnesses can only have so much physical evidence. the only thing I can think of is a video that is much cleaner and able to positively identify kicker/kickee or a highly credible witness (e.g. like the student body president who maybe does not ever drink). anything else would have to be just stupid self-incriminating evidence like JJ sending/receiving a text bragging about kicking someone in the face.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 7:03 am to
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One rarely sees Unglesby brought in unless the accused thinks they are potentially in deep doo doo.
O . M . G . !

Soooo, since JJ is clearly not guilty of 2nd Degree Assault, he should have hired a terrible attorney to represent him, or better yet just represented himself?

Good God Almighty PEOPLE !
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/31/11 at 7:09 am to
quote:

like what?


Are you suggesting that the general public has been presented ALL evidence regarding the case?

Cmon man
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