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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:54 pm to LSUMastermind
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:54 pm to LSUMastermind
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yeah, I've never seen so many people want such a mediocre player back so badly
it's really amazing
its really amazing you think you still have credibility after a comment like this.
This is really you're agenda, isnt it?
All of a sudden you see a second kicker and you want to talk about conspiracy theories.
you should be banned for sucking so much at this.
This! Doc just cares about JJ not being the QB for LSU. He would likely be just as happy if jj got hurt.
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:54 pm to DEANintheYAY
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know that the BRPD didn't ask to speak to the bouncers and likely still haven't. I know that Lowery through the first punch (according to the bouncers)
Fair enough, but doesnt the long video show Lowery or someone like him dragging the dude back to his truck. If Lowery through first, there is an entire segment of the fight missing, or the bouncers are wrong. Or am i just missing something else?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:56 pm to igoringa
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If Lowery through first, there is an entire segment of the fight missing
I would imagine there is. I doubt people had their phones out and ready to tape as soon as the first punch was thrown. It's likely that they only got the back end of the fight.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:56 pm to Geaux2002
quote:Wow.
That said, what is on that video is beyond pathetic by what seems to be LSU football players and the person doing it is pathetic and should be in jail right now.
After getting embarrassed the other day posting something less stupid than this, your gumption is simply amazing.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:56 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:LSU starting QBs aren't normally arrested a week before the season. This isn't his typical case. The DA is going to cover his arse. He wants to get elected again.
That isn't normally done if they know 100% that they can win.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:56 pm to ZTiger87
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Cut the crap. Everyone should damn well know that multiple LSU players were involved in a fight and most are getting off with no penalty at all.
But was it self defense, and have any of the others got a penalty? Just being in a fight isn't a crime. You don't know how it went down, and neither do I.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:56 pm to Geaux2002
They are also going to DNA test Johns and took 5 pairs of his shoes today.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:57 pm to ZTiger87
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Cut the crap. Everyone should damn well know that multiple LSU players were involved in a fight and most are getting off with no penalty at all.
What crap? Specifically which LSU football player can be identified in that video?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:57 pm to michael corleone
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The altercation clearly starts in the bar and he is the agressor relative to the girl
It seems the altercation with the girl has little or nothing to do with this. No one showed any reaction to him or what he was doing. The early rumors this started inside seem to be erroneous (by 'this' I mean the actual altercation.. the infamous slap or punch (Wing?)).
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:57 pm to ZTiger87
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Everyone should damn well know that multiple LSU players were involved in a fight and most are getting off with no penalty at all.
And what penalty should they receive? For frick's sake, it was a bar fight. I'm pissed these morons were out at 2am, two weeks before a huge game. But it was a goddamn bar fight. If the cops had to go through this shite every time this happened in Tigertown, it'd be Christmas every day for the real criminals.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:58 pm to denvertiger
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I'm also pretty pissed that a few of the "victims" have been caught in a couple of lies themselves.
If you say that 1,000,000 times, the chances of that being true at this point are 0 in 1,000,000. Knock yourself out though.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:58 pm to jlsutiger
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The DA is going to cover his arse.
I think he's covering his arse, just in the other direction. Do you realize the media backlash that would occur if Hillar would have rejected the charges issued by the BRPD?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:59 pm to NC_Tigah
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Wow.
After getting embarrassed the other day posting something less stupid than this, your gumption is simply amazing.
Why? Because if you beat a person on the ground multiple times, you should face criminal punishment? The horror.
I don't give a shite if other bar fights don't get this. They should, because if you are stupid enough to kick a guy on the ground multiple times in the back, you deserve punishment for it. The fact injuries defined as enough for second degree battery were sustained, means legally the person should be in jail.
Don't pull this shite if your gonna run like a wuss when the cops show up.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:59 pm to Geaux2002
As I said, it would be plausible, but not likely. To do a DNA test for a match itself doesn't take but a few hours. All you really have to do is PCR for both samples* and look at your results to see if it is a match. It's not the science that would take long, its the process
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:59 pm to michael corleone
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he video also cause Lowery a ton of problems relative credibilty and whether he made a false statement to the po po. If his story was "I was minding my own business and they just grabbed me" then he has some issues The altercation clearly starts in the bar and he is the agressor relative to the girl.This does not exculpate anyone who applied a "curb stomp", but if you are Lowery do you go forward with criminal charges if it requires you to admit that your original statement to the po po was BS?
Precisely.
Lowery's story, and police report filed, has always been that he was minding his own business and then he tried to help out people in the fight. He also denied being in the bar. This video shows he was in the bar and belligerent towards a girl. It will also be entered into evidence his ex filed a restrainer order after this night.
Lowery has about zero credibility as he's been caught in a lie. Why should I believe anything he says. sure, it doesn't mean JJ is innocent, but if its a battle of he said he said... a jury is more likely to believe the guy who didn't lie.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:59 pm to ProjectP2294
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I would imagine there is. I doubt people had their phones out and ready to tape as soon as the first punch was thrown. It's likely that they only got the back end of the fight.
Then how does this 'exonerate' anyone?!?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 7:59 pm to parks
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It takes 5-10 days for DNA results to come back. They arrested him two days after they swabbed him.
Results for forensic evidence or medical treatment can be obtained within 72 hours.If the samples are quality samples, as little as 72 hrs. for forensic or medical.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:00 pm to TheDoc
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yeah, I've never seen so many people want such a mediocre player back so badly
it's really amazing
WTF does JJ's talent/record on the field have to do with anything? I've never been a big JJ fan (and, in fact, had a long convo with my siblings during our summer Grand Isle vaca as to our dislike of his sideline pouty face and inability to admit he had a bad game, i.e., Vandy). Doesn't mean I think the evidence as presented thus far against him is conclusive, and I'm not going to let my personal disappointment/dislike with his play at QB color that.
For the record, the public evidence thus far against both JJs is quite iffy (and the two videos and the JJ/grey shirt, kicker/black shirt is particularly troubling). But, for some reason, JJ the QB seems to be attracting the most commentary on the rant...both from those who think the investigation has been a farce AND from those who think the investigation has been conducted in a reasonable manner.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:01 pm to TheDoc
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Actually to match DNA from one sample to another can be completed in a matter of hours. With the caseloads that Police handle it can take longer, but it is plausible that they would have gotten results, not likely, but plausible.
especially when the DA is breathing down their neck
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Wrong...it can maybe be rushed to 72 hours...but that is an extreme, and even then, arrest warrants went out less than 48 after samples were taken
Actually to match DNA from one sample to another can be completed in a matter of hours. With the caseloads that Police handle it can take longer, but it is plausible that they would have gotten results, not likely, but plausible.
especially when the DA is breathing down their neck
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Wrong...it can maybe be rushed to 72 hours...but that is an extreme, and even then, arrest warrants went out less than 48 after samples were taken
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:01 pm to Antonio Moss
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I mean why would the BRPD want to see this video that clearly shows Jefferson wearing a light colored shirt when the kicker was wearing black?
They could just do a bunch of worthless DNA swabs instead.
Haha. Exactly. That video is worthless
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