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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:02 pm to
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As I said, it would be plausible, but not likely. To do a DNA test for a match itself doesn't take but a few hours. All you really have to do is PCR for both same and look at your results to see if it is a match. It's not the science that would take long, its the process


Exactly.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Then how does this 'exonerate' anyone?!?


Well it definitely shows that Lowery was kicked by someone other than Jefferson and Johns.

And when you lack any evidence suggesting that Jefferson did in fact kick Lowery, it makes for an awfully hard case to prove.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:03 pm to
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72 hours


Jefferson was arrested less than 48 hours after his shoes and silva were confiscated.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Doc just cares about JJ not being the QB for LSU.


oh jesus christ on a cross
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:04 pm to
is there an actual copy of the arrest warrant in public view?
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:05 pm to
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What crap? Specifically which LSU football player can be identified in that video?


Are you denying that LSU players were in a fight?
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10125 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:05 pm to
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so the police arrested jefferson based off of what?
Heresay most likely, and not a good sample.
If I were a cop, my first ? would be directed to the establishment, asking what happened here?
Not some drunk fricking teenagers.
What say you?
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Well it definitely shows that Lowery was kicked by someone other than Jefferson and Johns.

And when you lack any evidence suggesting that Jefferson did in fact kick Lowery, it makes for an awfully hard case to prove.



If they have no other evidence and the video was their main lynchpin then you would be correct. In actuality, what this will do is likely result in more investigation into the third person (the kicker in dark) is. All JJ and JJ have to do is rat that person out.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:06 pm to
Actually my statement is accurate. I said its not likely that they would have received results, but the test itself only takes a few hours
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3968 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:06 pm to
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If you say that 1,000,000 times, the chances of that being true at this point are 0 in 1,000,000. Knock yourself out though.


So Lowery says he runs out to rescue some guys who have been pulled out of a truck. Jordon Neldare says Lowery got kicked out of the bar (on the tape) and then took a swing at someone.

I kinda like my odds better than yours (if I understand your convoluted post).
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

If they have no other evidence and the video was their main lynchpin then you would be correct.


I think its the video accompanied by Lowery and Long's accounts.

quote:

In actuality, what this will do is likely result in more investigation into the third person (the kicker in dark) is. All JJ and JJ have to do is rat that person out.


The burden is on the State. Jefferson doesn't have to do anything.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:06 pm to
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Wrong...it can maybe be rushed to 72 hours...but that is an extreme, and even then, arrest warrants went out less than 48 after samples were taken



ANOTHER EXPERT!

THE RANT IS FULL OF THEM TONIGHT!
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Heresay most likely, and not a good sample.
If I were a cop, my first ? would be directed to the establishment, asking what happened here?
Not some drunk fricking teenagers.
What say you?


Just to ask. Do you know if the establishment was forthcoming? Do you know if they were willing to cooperate when called upon?

You can't force the establishment to cooperate immediately.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7305 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Are you denying that LSU players were not in a fight?

No, I'm asking specifically which players are implicated by that video. Do you have an answer?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71102 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Antonio Moss


answer your phone when I call, dick
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Well it definitely shows that Lowery was kicked by someone other than Jefferson and Johns.


lowery is not that one being shown kicked in that video

unless he changed shirts a couple of times
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:08 pm to
quote:


If you say that 1,000,000 times, the chances of that being true at this point are 0 in 1,000,000. Knock yourself out though.


But the marine at least.. has been caught in some lies and has zero credibility right now.
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

The burden is on the State. Jefferson doesn't have to do anything.



Agreed, my point was if they want this resolved quickly, they could easily use that as a bargaining chip.
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3968 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

lowery is not that one being shown kicked in that video

unless he changed shirts a couple of times


So if this is true, we're looking at the wrong video. Does anyone have the vid where Lowery gets kicked?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

lowery is not that one being shown kicked in that video

unless he changed shirts a couple of times


Now this I could actually buy.

Although even the media was reporting that the video was of Lowery.
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