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re: Vandy’s Hawkins Field is next to get renovations… Alex Box falling further behind

Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:20 am to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:20 am to
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Would you rather sit on the bleachers watching a #5 national seed hosting or watching on tv because we’re on the road at someone else’s regional?
In what universe are both of these things not possible?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12834 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:27 am to
It’s not possible to both host and play in another regional at the same time lol
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15139 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:44 am to
You convert the ring a ding bleachers into chair back then make up the loss of seating via berm/home run patio.

Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3410 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:45 am to
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Maybe Arkansas is ahead but Miss st and A&M are prob equal at best


Are you smoking crack, have you seen dudy noble field… I think we may be the only facility left with metal bleachers
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 9:46 am
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3410 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:48 am to
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The atmosphere makes the stadium, not the amenities


The atmosphere is lacking because of facilities in my opinion, the older crowd that’s stuck on skips way is feathering out and it’s hurting.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15139 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:48 am to
The guy was going off Mike Bianco comments lol.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84957 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:51 am to
LSU does not have the money to make both of those things happen. If they did they would have done something about it already. We don’t have the kind of sugar daddy’s they have at some other schools.

Spending the money we do have on player facing facilities is the right way to go.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36573 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:53 am to
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The atmosphere is lacking because of facilities in my opinion, the older crowd that’s stuck on skips way is feathering out and it’s hurting.


The crowd sets the tone. It as not the amenities.

What makes Yankee Stadium. Not the leather seats but the did hards in the outfield.

The old Box was electric, not because of the amenities, the seats or anything else.; it was because of the crowd. The vocal fans, the diehards.

And yes the crowd is older. More corporate types too. Fewer diehards. Jazzing up things is great for selling tickets, but it r we I’ll never bring back the atmosphere we once had.

That crowd is gone.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:07 am to
Honestly should have just stayed at the old box. Easier for students living in campus to walk to as well. I know it was cramped but you can’t tell me you couldn’t put some money into it and keep it around longer. Maybe just now they’d be looking at a new stadium and would do it right.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42306 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:08 am to
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Honestly should have just stayed at the old box


Even more outdated

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Easier for students living in campus to walk to


It's one block away
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42306 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:11 am to
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So what if we removed them… what would Alex Box be if the 7000 bleacher seats were removed? So without them all you’re losing is capacity. What would people think of a 4K-seat stadium as it is right now? Would people then realize how unimpressive it actually is? That it’s not much different than UGA and no better than Auburn? Because that’s legitimately what it is when you simply remove your capacity bleachers that bring nothing else to the table.


Depends on what's being put into its place.

I'd take a 9k Stadium with tremendous seating & atmosphere changes.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5125 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:16 am to
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LSU does not have the money to make both of those things happen. If they did they would have done something about it already. We don’t have the kind of sugar daddy’s they have at some other schools.


Yea because Miss at and Ole Miss are so rich

Schools like Tenn who have barely spent or made any money on baseball in years are doing upgrades but lsu can’t afford it ?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12834 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:17 am to
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I'd take a 9k Stadium with tremendous seating & atmosphere changes.


Are you talking just seats or total capacity?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85310 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:22 am to
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causing the team to lose games causing lsu to lose out on top recruits causing lsu/lsu baseball to lose money preventing lsu fans from going to games preventing opposing fans from going to games limiting our ability to host regionals or super regionals
LSU has lost games because of the bullpen.
LSU has lost recruits to State because of their field.
LSU is not maximizing revenue with the current stadium.
LSU has lost fans who would rather watch the games at home than on hot metal bleachers.
LSU doesn’t give a shite about opposing fans.
Literally 99% of schools have the ability to host regionals and supers.
Posted by Kato
Sec 102
Member since Nov 2006
2796 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:24 am to
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Before a penny is spent updating Alex Box, the lower bowl of Tiger Stadium needs to be replaced.


Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12834 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:37 am to
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LSU has lost games because of the bullpen.


Which ones?

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LSU has lost recruits to State because of their field.


Which ones? Quotes from them? How many recruits did we get over other schools that didn’t give a shite about “fan experience” because they want to play for lsu and one of the top programs in the country.

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LSU is not maximizing revenue with the current stadium

Is lsu still not one of if not the most profitable baseball programs in the country?
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LSU has lost fans who would rather watch the games at home than on hot metal bleachers.

Top 2 in 2023 attendance figures. There are fans who will lineup to take the places of the folks that are crying about “fan experience”
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LSU doesn’t give a shite about opposing fans.

I bet they do. It helps with attendance and ticket sales.
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Literally 99% of schools have the ability to host regionals and supers.

Ok. So leading or almost leading the nation in ticket sales and attendance gives us a keg up on all those other schools.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36573 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:59 am to
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Honestly should have just stayed at the old box. Easier for students living in campus to walk to as well. I know it was cramped but you can’t tell me you couldn’t put some money into it and keep it around longer. Maybe just now they’d be looking at a new stadium and would do it right.


They looked at that, but it would have been very costly and they didn’t have room for the suites, the batting center, etc.

The old Box was in a great location. People had staked out great tailgating spots all around the stadium. Parking was readily available and the atmosphere was a smaller version of football pregame.

The new location doesn’t have that. It’s almost like the venue is off campus. And it was much easier for students on campus to attend although the main buzz created was from season ticket holders.
Posted by NebraskaExPat
Member since Dec 2020
255 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:09 am to
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Is lsu still not one of if not the most profitable baseball programs in the country?



This means that we should have some money for stadium upgrades.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85310 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:14 am to
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Which ones?
There was the game where the ball got stuck under the benches. There have been games where our players have gotten hurt running over them. You’re welcome to find them.
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Which ones? Quotes from them? How many recruits did we get over other schools that didn’t give a shite about “fan experience” because they want to play for lsu and one of the top programs in the country.
There are a few who Cannizzaro got who were LSU targets/leans that committed as soon as they went through the stadium. And don’t move the goal posts. You asked if we lost recruits. And we have. You think the Dude doesn’t help State take players from elsewhere? Is that really what you want to argue?
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Is lsu still not one of if not the most profitable baseball programs in the country?
Again, don’t move goalposts. They are not maximizing the profit. Period.
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Top 2 in 2023 attendance figures. There are fans who will lineup to take the places of the folks that are crying about “fan experience”
Using paid attendance is bullshite and you know it. Fans who don’t show don’t pay for concessions (beer is a huge money maker) or buy LSU gear there. The stadium is very often half full and barely over that on SEC weekends.
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I bet they do. It helps with attendance and ticket sales.
Nope. LSU slots tickets to opposing fans down left field. They don’t get sold, doesn’t matter.
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So leading or almost leading the nation in ticket sales and attendance gives us a keg up on all those other schools.
The selection committee doesn’t look at capacity when selecting host sites. They just let Kentucky host with no rooms for the teams to sleep in.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12834 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:27 am to
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There was the game where the ball got stuck under the benches. There have been games where our players have gotten hurt running over them. You’re welcome to find them.


You called it out. I’m not looking for stuff to back up your argument lol. It’s inconsequential.

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There are a few who Cannizzaro got who were LSU targets/leans that committed as soon as they went through the stadium. And don’t move the goal posts. You asked if we lost recruits. And we have. You think the Dude doesn’t help State take players from elsewhere? Is that really what you want to argue?

ok. “A few” I’m pointing out how inconsequential it is in the bigger picture. Sure I’ll move the goal posts. Is lsu struggling as a program because recruits don’t like our stadium? Lol
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Again, don’t move goalposts. They are not maximizing the profit. Period

LSU isn’t struggling lol
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Using paid attendance is bullshite and you know it. Fans who don’t show don’t pay for concessions (beer is a huge money maker) or buy LSU gear there. The stadium is very often half full and barely over that on SEC weekends.

All lsu cares about is tickets sold. They are doing many firm in that regard.

Bottom line is “fan experience” isn’t causing lsu baseball program to struggle. There’s a portion of fans that feel entitled to luxury and they aren’t getting that so they are whining about it.
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