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re: Vanderbilt currently 15-0 and about to be ranked in the T10 in year two with Byington..
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:33 am to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:33 am to LSUAlum2001
He’s a really good coach. They were a grind it out, smart team with almost no turnover rate last year but this year he’s opened it up more with the talent upgrade. A coach that can do multiple things well, something we’ll never see with our current guy.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:33 am to LSUAlum2001
Cannot stand McMahon 
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 9:34 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:44 am to mdomingue
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quote: He’s a good coach.
That is true, just not at the SEC level
There is absolutely nothing to justify this opinion. There is not a single aspect of the hame that any of his teams have done well or have even improved on since he’s been here.
Every person on the basketball staff needs to be replaced. I don’t care if they played here or not.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:04 am to fallguy_1978
LSU will likely cut ties with McMahon at the conclusion of the season. One good candidate to replace him would be Bryce Drew, currently a highly successful coach at Grand Canyon who's been making the tourney regularly in recent years. Drew, a former Valpo star, is a Baton Rouge native and a devout Christian.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:06 am to Alt26
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There's no actual evidence of that other than supposition and conjecture.
Wasn't this actually stated by the athletic department and boosters when they said they were going to increase the NIL funds available?
He doesn't have that excuse now, but it sure looks like he did then.
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Can we say that with any strong sense of certainty? He certainly hasn't been good at LSU, so the only other metric to measure is his time at Murray St. He had a good record there...but so did the 6 coaches that preceded him. He also had the ONLY losing season the program had from 1988 - 2017 (nearly 30 years). He had a .697 career wining %. Great in the context of basketball at large. But that was only good enough to be THIRD among 6 HCs from 1995 - 2022.
That indicates a good coach. 1st or tied for 1st in 4 of 6 seasons. A 30-3 season is also an indication of a good coach. The second Murray State coach with 3 tournament appearances (the other was the guy with the last losing season before McMahon). Not a great coach, but I would say better than average at those lower levels.
The coach who was there before McMahon, Steve Prohm, took over for McMahon and had back-to-back losing seasons.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:07 am to LSUbasketballfan
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There is absolutely nothing to justify this opinion.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:23 am to fallguy_1978
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I think McMahon gets fired either during the season or after it. The fans have stopped showing up and are completely apathetic. The new AD is going to want to find his guy.
I will be in town next week and was going to try to make the Kentucky game. frickers still have lower bowl tickets on seat geek priced around $150 for 2 0-2 teams in league play.
At this point, I should be paid to subject myself to watching such a bad product
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:25 am to LSUAlum2001
Just give him more time.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:54 am to mhc4tigers
THE DEATH PENALTY? PLEASE ELABORATE.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:59 am to LSUAlum2001
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about to be ranked in the T10 in year two with Byington..
Sounds like he got his players to ... Buy in
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:00 am to tarzana
devout Christian always equals 25 win seasons.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:07 am to basiletiger
I don't know about that, but we need men of faith in a world dominated by chaos and confusion, such as college sports, nowadays.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:35 am to mdomingue
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Wasn't this actually stated by the athletic department and boosters when they said they were going to increase the NIL funds available?
It was the PR justification to announce plans to keep a coach who, at the time, was 44-43 (13-35) in 3 seasons and likely to lose several more games the rest of the season. LSU had to give the fans some reason to understand why they were not firing a guy with such an awful record because not doing so was totally illogical. More importantly, they couldn't report the REAL reason McMahon was being retained...which was Tate/Woodward did not want to be put in a situation where influential donors, politicos, and the fans, would be screaming at them to rehire Wade.
Both recognized how pathetic the basketball program was at that time. Both recognized the season was coming to an end soon and they would be asked about McMahon's future. But they absolutely had no interest in rehiring Wade. So the best way to stop the demands that he be rehired was to make the job people wanted him to get unavailable. That's what they did. The thought being either McMahon did the unexpected and had a good season. Or he sucked and they fired him at the end of this year. Either way, the extra year allowed Tate/Woodward to "get rid of the Wade problem" they didn't want to deal with (because they knew he was going to get a major conf. job from someone else)....and it (in part) lead to their ousters within the months that followed.
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That indicates a good coach. 1st or tied for 1st in 4 of 6 seasons. A 30-3 season is also an indication of a good coach. The second Murray State coach with 3 tournament appearances (the other was the guy with the last losing season before McMahon). Not a great coach, but I would say better than average at those lower levels.
Or it indicates a good program over the ability of the individual coaches.
Another such program is VCU. Since 2002 VCU has rolled out coach after coach who parlayed success at VCU to a power conf. job: Capel, Grant, Smart, Wade, Rhoades, Odom. Only ONE had a winning % above .600 at the school he left VCU for. I'll let you guess who that one is (though Ryan Odom is having a good year 1 at UVA).
"Good coaches" transcend programs. They win wherever they go. Average coaches win only in "good programs". "Bad coaches" tank programs to decades long lows.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 1:09 pm to Alt26
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It was the PR justification to announce plans to keep a coach who, at the time, was 44-43 (13-35) in 3 seasons and likely to lose several more games the rest of the season.
That is true, but it doesn't mean the justification was wrong. I recall publications that listed MBB spend in the SEC that had LSU in the bottom 2 or 3. It also does not justify the record of this coach.
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"Good coaches" transcend programs.
I think we are arguing semantics. I would say very good to great coaches transcend programs. I would also say that some coaches are program builders at all levels, some at lower levels, and some are simply maintainers. McMahon is certainly not the first. There is no real evidence he is the second, though that does not mean he isn't; he has not been in that position yet. He looks to be the third, at least at the lower level. That is what you call an average coach, and I look at it as a good coach.
At the end of the day, we both want him elsewhere as soon as this season is over, if not sooner(for me, I would have feelers out now and cut him loose at the end of the season with a replacement hopefully in the queue). He has to know that, barring a miraculous turnaround, his job is forfeit at the end of the season at the latest.
We may not always agree, but I know and appreciate that you are truly a fan, Alt.
auxtigers:Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:14 pm to LSUAlum2001
You aholes seem to forget that your God Wade completely decimated this program when he left. McMahon took this job knowing we had NO roster and NCAA investigators breathing down our neck. Now with that said he should be getting the program in winning shape. If he doesn’t win After the whole season plays out with a pretty good roster then it’s probably time to look elsewhere. Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:15 pm to lsucrazy
Fake news
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:16 pm to mdomingue
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At the end of the day, we both want him elsewhere as soon as this season is over, if not sooner(for me, I would have feelers out now and cut him loose at the end of the season with a replacement hopefully in the queue). He has to know that, barring a miraculous turnaround, his job is forfeit at the end of the season at the latest.
The sad thing is that not making a change last year may have screwed his potential to get a HC job after he is let go. I would say probably the only school that would have really wanted him to their HC was Murray St. (then again, the went that route with Phrom and it didn't work). That job was open last offseason. It won't be open now. Sadly, he's probably looking at the John Pelphrey path. Fired from an SEC school (assistant coach for 10 years). Now HC somewhere in the OVC
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:23 pm to LSUAlum2001
basketball, more than any other sport, can be re-vamped the quickest in this day and age of NIL, transfer portal, etc....
But here we are in Year 4....still waiting.
But here we are in Year 4....still waiting.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:39 pm to tarzana
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One good candidate to replace him would be Bryce Drew,
The guy who went 0-19 in the SEC on a Vanderbilt team with multiple future NBA players? No.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:49 pm to lsudave1
He was young then with no prior head coaching experience. Even at Vandy he had a winning record/NIT his first year. He has proceeded to have six straight winning seasons at Grand Canyon University with at least 2 NCAA tournament appearances. He went to the NIT semifinals last year.
Bryce Drew would be an improvement over McMahon
Bryce Drew would be an improvement over McMahon
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