- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
1
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:14 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
UGA losing in the SECCG would leave them as the top ranked 1-loss team, i.e., still in the Top-4.
i've seen this repeated a lot but I don't think it's a guarantee.
if these teams win out:
Ohio state/michigan
TCU
LSU
USC
I think you're looking at your top 4 with USC jumping georgia by having a conference championship and georgia not having one. I could be wrong but we know the CFPC values conference champions over non when records are even.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:20 am to tigbit
Our CFP starts Dec 3. That’s it. No speculation necessary, either way.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:23 am to tigbit
They go ahead of us, as they probably should, but we then jump them after Georgia.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:24 am to 4evrlsu
quote:
Our CFP starts Dec 3. That’s it. No speculation necessary, either way.
It’s been this. I don’t know why people care so much about these rankings the last couple of weeks. We just needed to stay close.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:25 am to Cadello
Gotta still take care of business with A&M first
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:29 am to tigbit
Remember when the Vols were posturing and then got blown out by the Cocks?
I'm not worried about any of this this yet.
I'm not worried about any of this this yet.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:31 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
UGA losing in the SECCG would leave them as the top ranked 1-loss team, i.e., still in the Top-4.
While possible I don't think that's a guarantee this season.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:40 am to Metaloctopus
LSU and USC are both in if they win out and TCU doesn’t win it’s conference.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:04 am to Metaloctopus
quote:
He said again that even if TCU doesn't win their conference he thinks the committee will choose the path of least resistance and take the 1 loss team.
So why do they currently have LSU ahead of TWO 1-loss teams? Why would they rate a 1-loss non-champion TCU more highly than USC and Clemson. His position makes no sense. Is it also his belief that Georgia and the Ohio St/Michigan loser would stay ahead of LSU?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:19 pm to MikeTheTiger71
quote:
So why do they currently have LSU ahead of TWO 1-loss teams? Why would they rate a 1-loss non-champion TCU more highly than USC and Clemson. His position makes no sense. Is it also his belief that Georgia and the Ohio St/Michigan loser would stay ahead of LSU?
I assume so, but to be fair, as I said in my comment, I don't think we'd pass the loser of that game, or Georgia, either. I think it's possible, but I don't expect it, simply due to their high ranking and the fact that this would not be a "bad" loss for any of them, unless it's a blowout. With Georgia, they have built up a rather substantial resume that I'm not sure even a head to head victory will put us over them. The whole reason we are ahead of USC and Clemson right now is because they haven't played much of anyone, and that is the same problem with TCU. Which is why I think we'd jump them if they don't win their conference, and we win out.
USC does have an opportunity to beat a couple of ranked teams coming up, on the heels of beating UCLA, so I do get the sense that we'll need them to lose one of those games. I am really not concerned about Clemson in this scenario. I guess it would be nice if they lost just so we don't have to hear the gnashing of teeth from them, but I don't know that it's really relevant to our actual chances.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:27 pm to LSUSkip
quote:
That game is basically a quarterfinal for LSU.
And aTm is the cupcake rent-a-win we scheduled for the week before, only we don’t have to pay them.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:27 pm to Metaloctopus
quote:
The whole reason we are ahead of USC and Clemson right now is because they haven't played much of anyone, and that is the same problem with TCU. Which is why I think we'd jump them if they don't win their conference, and we win out.
I think you may be overstating the resumes of Georgia, Ohio St and Michigan relative to LSU and those other teams. They are where they are in the rankings because they are undefeated and started the year highly ranked. Good wins aren’t really what got them there, especially Ohio St and Michigan. If they suffer a loss, suddenly the flimsiness of their resume comes into focus. Ohio St and Michigan each beat Penn St and that’s pretty much it, maybe Notre Dame in OSU’s case. Even in Georgia’s case, LSU will have better Top 10 wins and a tougher conference schedule.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 12:55 am to MikeTheTiger71
quote:
I think you may be overstating the resumes of Georgia, Ohio St and Michigan relative to LSU and those other teams. They are where they are in the rankings because they are undefeated and started the year highly ranked. Good wins aren’t really what got them there, especially Ohio St and Michigan. If they suffer a loss, suddenly the flimsiness of their resume comes into focus. Ohio St and Michigan each beat Penn St and that’s pretty much it, maybe Notre Dame in OSU’s case. Even in Georgia’s case, LSU will have better Top 10 wins and a tougher conference schedule.
I don't think I'm overstating anything here. A resume is more than just who you play, it's also about how you play. Neither Michigan nor Ohio State have as tough of a conference schedule as LSU, but they have mostly dominated their competition, and do each have a win over Penn State, and are now going to get a bump when they play each other, as far as strength of schedule. LSU getting blown out by Tennessee at home and losing to a so-so FSU doesn't really help LSU in the resume argument. That's why I think if you expect the committee to push LSU past a 1 loss Michigan or OSU, whoever loses that game probably needs to get blown out.
In the case of Georgia, they blew out Oregon and Tennessee, have dominated the vast majority of their games, and would finish with 1 less loss than LSU (assuming they don't lose to Georgia Tech, somehow). That is a mountain to climb if you're a fan who's banking on jumping Georgia. I think there is a slim chance of it, but only slim.
With TCU, they not only have a weak schedule (Significantly weaker than Michigan and OSU, imo), but they haven't even really dominated almost any of their games. So a loss for them I think would really cripple their chances if LSU wins out.
IF we can pass either OSU or Michigan, I think it's Michigan we should be pulling against. They have been fairly significantly the less impressive of the two, and a loss, especially a blowout, might knock them out.
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 12:57 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 1:09 am to Cadello
Not true, TAMU is, don't beat them dont matter if we beat UGA in the SECGC
Posted on 11/24/22 at 1:35 am to Metaloctopus
quote:your problem is listening to moscona.
was blown away yesterday morning when Matt Moscona responded to me on his podcast by telling me that he didn't think LSU would pass a 1 loss TCU. I reminded him that I qualified my statement by saying I thought a 1 loss NON conference champion TCU would get leaped by a 2 loss SEC champion LSU. He said again that even if TCU doesn't win their conference he thinks the committee will choose the path of least resistance and take the 1 loss team.
He is intentionally lowering expectations to protect either himself or his listeners...or both.
Today he talked about if USC jumps lsu next week, we would need someone to lose to get in. Every other talking head feels certain lsu would rejump USC with a win over #1 UGA...as they should.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 2:05 am to UnoMe
quote:
Think about it… it’s not complicated # 6 USC beats #15 Norte Dame And jumps #5 LSU Then the next week #5/#6 LSU beats #1 Georgia and you don’t think they/LSU don’t jump back up?
I hear ya. But if usc also wins conference championship weekend, that’ll give them three top 16 wins in a row. Not saying I agree with it, but the committee can certainly spin that as justification for keeping them in front of us. I’d say it’s a coin flip unless we beat the brakes off uga. Our path is not guaranteed unless two teams in front of us lose, or OSU blasts Michigan. If Michigan wins that game, OSU ain’t dropping out.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 2:34 am to SOL2
USC is OU west
Always drive off the tee box in great fashion but misses the 3 foot putt every time
Always drive off the tee box in great fashion but misses the 3 foot putt every time
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:26 am to tigbit
They won't beat ND. They suck.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 9:06 am to tigbit
If LSU beats UGA, that will be the literal best win of any team in the country.
UGA will undoubtedly be highest 1 loss team.
So beating ND and pac12 championship opponent will not cause USC to jump lsu if they beat TAMU and UGA. That would be a complete farce.
Unless lsu wins both games by a field goal and USC wins both by 4+ tds. But that’s far fetched.
UGA will undoubtedly be highest 1 loss team.
So beating ND and pac12 championship opponent will not cause USC to jump lsu if they beat TAMU and UGA. That would be a complete farce.
Unless lsu wins both games by a field goal and USC wins both by 4+ tds. But that’s far fetched.
Page 2 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News