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re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE

Posted on 3/28/26 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 9:32 pm to
He literally had possibly the greatest recruiting class ever lined up to come to LSU when he was fired. We never got to see his full potential. He was on the rise not the decline when fired. You are wrong and you will see
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 9:38 pm to
He’s only had 5 chances to make the tourney at P4 programs. Again it took Kelvin Sampson 7 years at a P5 to make the tourney, it took him 12 years to get to a sweet 16. It took Scott Drew 5 years to get to the dance at Baylor and 7 to get to the sweet 16. It took Bill Self 6 years to get in, 8 to get to the sweet 16 if we want to just compare their total careers he’s ahead of that pace as well. And on and on and on we can go but Wade will always be subjected to double standards by a portion of fans here. Some just completely ignorant to college basketball and a handful who just hate him because he and McMahon have made them look foolish and bruised their egos.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 9:44 pm
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 9:45 pm to
I rest my case. And the average of all of these guys combined is over 60.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70761 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 9:58 pm to
Case closed
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:48 am to
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Already selectively adding new qualifiers


Classic Irony King, I wonder if you even understand what these phrases mean it’s not a selection qualifier because I never said the SEC never good at MBB at any point in history.

This however is selective qualifier

quote:

06 to 2014


2006 had 2 SEC teams in the Final Four and the Champions 2000-2005 which you left out had only 1 FF, 1 runner up and 0 titles.

But again no one is arguing the SEC has never been strong in MBB but it did fall off. Thats undeniable. The commissioner hired a consultant because it had fallen off, even with Kentucky winning a title and making multiple FFs been 2008-2016 when Trangesse was hired and I’d argue it worked even if the solution was obvious and Jimmy Ott said the same

Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6816 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:06 am to
Jury is still out for me. Let’s see if the refs and system still have it out for him when he returns.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:26 am to
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In all of these type threads there hasn’t been any detractor who’s willing to define what elite means to them


Wrong again. I explicitly defined some essential postseason success criteria for elite status and you proceeded to play your usual games and dance around that while claiming I was somehow moving the goalpost.

There’s not a more disingenuous poster on this board than you.
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
3797 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:22 am to
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This is accurate, but that doesn't mean he can't be elite.


Although I don’t consider Wade an elite coach at this point, he has the potential to become one. To me, an elite college basketball coach is someone who has guided his team to multiple Elite Eight and Final Four appearances—coaches like Bill Self, Mark Few, Rick Pitino, Dan Hurley, Matt Painter, and Tom Izzo. That’s how I define elite.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 11:24 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17603 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:30 am to
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This is not a fair conclusion. And honestly, just not factual or warranted.

Elite coaches don’t need excuses on why they fell short. WW has more excuses tied to him than any coach I can remember. Eventually he will have to make a deep tournament run to be considered as a top coach.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70761 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:33 am to
projection
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 11:34 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70761 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:34 am to
That’s it, just keep moving the target
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14715 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:54 am to
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Elite coaches don’t need excuses on why they fell short. WW has more excuses tied to him than any coach I can remember.



How many of those "Elite" Coaches built their reputation at a non elite basketball university?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70761 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:57 am to
You must have missed the last 4 years proving you don’t even watch basketball
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
3797 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:05 pm to
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How many of those "Elite" Coaches built their reputation at a non elite basketball university?


Self - Oral Roberts University
Pitino - Boston University
Izzo - Montana Tech
Painter - Southern Illinois
Hurley - Wagner College
Cal - UMass
Golden - San Francisco
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17603 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:23 pm to
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You must have missed the last 4 years proving you don’t even watch basketball

Oh so the last four years proved to you that WW is elite and doesn’t need to have success in the tournament to establish himself? Is that what you’re saying? Because I disagree with that.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70761 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:31 pm to
Learn how to read
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47934 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:34 pm to
This entire thread is hilarious with posters trying to judge a 43 yo coach verses HOFers, while also stating he's not elite, while the elite coaches mentioned have an additional 20-30+ years on their resume. And yet, we still don't know the definition of elite.
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1287 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:38 pm to
I think everyone knows this. If he was elite he wouldn't be at LSU. He's the best coach we can get. And he's exciting. I think making the tournament 4 out of 5 years would be great. Anything beyond that is lagniappe.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 9:25 pm to
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That’s it, just keep moving the target


Never change Ironyking, never change
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70761 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 9:54 pm to
Cope
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