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re: UCLA gymnast Alexis Jeffrey transfers to LSU after she was harassed by former teammates

Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:20 am to
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
8286 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:20 am to
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What exactly happened

AJ is a gymnast on UCLA gymnastics team singing popular rap song with lyrics that has n-word. Two other gymnasts(who are both white) over hear this and confront AJ, saying she cant sing that and needs to apologize. AJ thinks she does nothing wrong and feels like there is no need for apology. This pisses off these gymnasts that over heard her and they report it to the coaching staff and other gymnast on the team. Since then a lot of therapy and meetings was done with the UCLA gymnastics team to address the issue. During this time also there was apparently a lot of bullying of AJ which reached a tipping point when the leader of the team said she need to be suspended for two meets and still needs to apologize. AJ says frick that and transfers. UCLA gymnastics still having problems.

I could be wrong but that is everything I have gathered from reading around.
Posted by Enjuhnear
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2021
388 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:35 am to
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please define this term, and give specific examples.



It is basically a welfare program for white people.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:05 pm to
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no, they're saying that expending all the righteous indignation over a word in a song might be better spent on trying to address tangible problems, like actual people being actually harmed/killed by out-of-control violent crime in Chicago, and other places.
The girls are 18-21 attending UCLA. Some new girl on their team uses the N word and doesn't apologize right away, but you think they should just stay quiet unless they are actively involved in solving inner city crime? JFC. If someone calls your kids a dumb cracker do you tell them not to get upset?

ETA: and I think the UCLA women wanting her suspended, the coach fired, and possibly bullying the girl have taken it way too far and are huge drama queens. But saying a young woman can't get upset is just dumb. Like what would you want a 20 year gymnast to do to solve black on black crime anyway?
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Like what would you want a 20 year gymnast to do to solve black on black crime anyway?


Stop glorifying rap culture for one.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31120 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:15 pm to
If Kendrick and Killer Mike didn't want my old honkie.@ss singing those words then they wouldn't be in the lyrics. And they'd agree.

Can Elvis sing 'In the Ghetto', or is it only culturally appropriate if Stevie Wonder sings 'Just Enough for the City' ? Or is it verboten altogether for all?
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Stop glorifying rap culture for one.
Who says they are doing that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:22 pm to
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but you think they should just stay quiet


Absolutely. The world would be a much better place of progressives learned to stop being such pussies.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by machismo64
Birmingham, Al
Member since Dec 2011
248 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:27 pm to
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My kids explained to me that there’s this unspoken thing where white people singing rap songs are supposed to sing a censored version



This sort of thing is a good reason for white people to never listen to rap music. If you don't listen to it, you won't sing it. If you don't sing it, you won't sing it "offensively".

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20151 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:27 pm to
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If someone calls your kids a dumb cracker do you tell them not to get upset?
correct, because they're not one.

I've taught my kids not to view others through a racial lens, and not to view themselves racially either. They go to a majority-minority high school and have friends across the spectrum. No issue at all that I've heard of.

They're each a person - an individual - not defined as a member of an identity group, whether that's race, religion, etc.

They're an individual. An American individual.
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
1571 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:28 pm to
Who the hell was playing the music? Was it on headphones was it blaring in the gym? We dont know shite! If they were playing it in the gym everybody should shut the hell up!
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:35 pm to
Is it racist to cut and paste the lyrics to a rap song? Will I automatically be accused of being in the clan?

I've got a confession. NWA was my favorite thing to listen to during my junior year and I sang along many times. I still do not hate minorities...in fact I hate leftist white people much more than any minority I can think of.

lyrics

Is this a racist website because of the lyrics including the n-word?
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
1571 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:43 pm to
Im a white boy and ive seen them in concert! I dont hate anybody that doesnt make me hate them. LOL!!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20151 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:43 pm to
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It [white supremacy] is basically a welfare program for white people.
it is?

Where's my check? I haven't received a penny in handouts from the gov't for over 57 years.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22613 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:03 pm to
Liberals are retarded bullies. Tune in at 5
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:20 pm to
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ETA: and I think the UCLA women wanting her suspended, the coach fired, and possibly bullying the girl have taken it way too far and are huge drama queens.


No, you really don't. You advocate the behavior of those wanting her suspended daily.

Funny how you and TBoy come in this thread knighting when the reality is you promote this.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28602 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Funny how you and TBoy come in this thread knighting when the reality is you promote this.

bullshite. Don't waste time lying about me. This thread isn't about me or you. Be less of an idiot next time.
Posted by ellis197575
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
1414 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 4:12 pm to
I don't think many here are being objective. I think there are too many dealing with the fatigue from the "woke" crowd. In a sense, they just side with anyone or anything in conflict of "being woke".

First, whether it was singing lyrics or or the use of the N-word in a casual sentence, if someone communicates that it offends them, obviously you refrain from using that language around them. That's what mature folks do. Also, I don't know of any workplace environments that would tolerate that behavior, it may not be her workplace but she owes it to the University to conduct herself in a certain manner.

The only reason this is even a story is that (if most did the smallest amount of research) UCLA is considered among the NCAA gymnastics community as sort of a "safe space" for minorities. They've been featured in Glamour and have had various articles written about how diverse they are. Even some minority parents of current and former gymnasts were a little bit shocked to hear about this at UCLA.

I think the issue has been blown out of proportion. This should've been handled by UCLA's administrative department and NEVER should've been a story. Everyone should be held to the same standard, nobody should be using language that could be considered racist. White, black, Asian, etc. period!

I highly doubt she would "sing those lyrics" in front of the administrators or in front of a competition committee, why....because she knows it to be inappropriate language to use publicly. I say publicly because behind close doors, you're never going to stop people from acting/talking how they want to.

Long story short...I don't think she's racist if she was singing a song and used the N-word in doing so. I do believe she's immature for her age if she doesn't even understand why she should've refrained from using that type of language when confronted by teammates. Seems like everybody involved in this situation is at fault one way or another.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 4:43 pm to
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Lol only a true POS would think not saying the N-word was some sort of submissive act as opposed to displaying human decency


That’s this fricking site. Not even a bit shocked how this thread on this site went.

Reading some articles it sounds like this girl went around saying shite cause she did it where she was from. She got called out. Talked about hurting herself. Played the victim. Made up some stories about how she didn’t do anything wrong.

And now all the racists on this site come together to give their ignorant opinions and talk about wokeness and cancel culture.
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
1615 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 6:42 pm to
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Reading some articles it sounds like


Oh please do share these objective accounts!!!
Posted by Enjuhnear
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2021
388 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:12 pm to
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it is?

Where's my check? I haven't received a penny in handouts from the gov't for over 57 years.



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