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re: Tre Bradford was the starter against FSU.....
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:37 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:37 pm to thunderbird1100
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Part of the problem of having 8 scholarship runningbacks which was completely overkill for an offense that has a running QB or any offense for that matter as 8 scholarship backs in 2023 football just makes no sense.
I agree but IIRC Logan Diggs became available in the transfer portal late and we offered. Even with a crowed RB room at current talent levels you don't turn down Logan Diggs.
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RBs ran the ball a total of 310 times last season. That's 22 times a game. You dont need to be a math major to understand with only 1 guy on the field at a time having 8 guys you can go to makes zero sense there
You are right. Get Nuss on the field and that 22 turns into 33.
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:54 pm to GumboPot
Heck I’d like to see two backs on the field for about 1/3rd of the snaps. They can catch, block or run. In a hurry up offense it would drive defenses nuts trying to figure out who will run let alone where they go in pass plays.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:30 pm to BBATiger
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Chris Hilton, Lance Heard, Kaleb Jackson, Logan Diggs and LaTerrance Welch didn't play against FSU There is no rhyme or reason to his depth chart.
There is plenty of rhyme and reason. Chris Hilton didn’t start because he’s not in the top 3. Kaleb Jackson is probably learning the offense, as is Heard, and there was no way they were going to put them in against FSU. I have no idea why Diggs didn’t play against FSU. Was he dinged? LaTerrance Welch? Not high enough on the depth chart.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:01 pm to GumboPot
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You are right. Get Nuss on the field and that 22 turns into 33.
In some of the most run heavy Les Miles years we ran the ball with our RBs 34-35 times a game.
In today's shortened game and more reliance on the pass game there's no way we'd ever (or should) approach mid 30 carries a game for RBs. Certainly SOME games we are trying to grind out you get there. But on average across the whole season we arent running the ball with the backs 35ish times a game nor should we. We should not be going back to archaic predictable offense.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:03 pm to TheWalrus
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Exactly. He had one wheel route work out and did nothing else all game.
Except scoring a touchdown ?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:06 pm to GeauxHouston
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Except scoring a touchdown ?
It was a 1 yard run on 1st/goal
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:07 pm to GumboPot
Stop shitting on our players.
We need Daniels to spread it around. We have talent
We need Daniels to spread it around. We have talent
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:21 pm to thunderbird1100
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A RB though? You can easily play game 1, and nobody expects you to tote the rock 20-25 times, nobody really does that any more anyways. Jackson could have 5-6 plays he knows well and thats what he can run and you could easily get away with that from the get go. He doesnt need to be out for 65 offensive snaps. But if he's out there for 10 or so and gets a few totes it should be easily feasible.
Pass protection is the bigger issue for most freshmen, both in terms of learning all the calls and reliably making the blocks. I bet it won’t be long before he has it down well enough to take a lot of carries from Williams.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:26 pm to misey94
Roster blufffs till we play Bama then we bringin' it
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:03 pm to Bayou
We literally started our worst two backs in FSU game. Neither Bradford nor Cain are good at hitting the holes this o line opens up. Once you have Diggs and Jackson in there with Lance at RT, this run game will open up. FSU was as much about personnel usage as it was scheme and adjustment.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:15 pm to mule74
They look all the same because we have one running play. Stupid running scheme at LSU...just pure stupid.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:30 pm to Tshiz
He’s not shitting on the players. He’s just giving an honest opinion on who the best backs are from top to bottom. I would drop Cain further down but other than that his list is pretty spot on.
Don’t be so sensitive lol
Don’t be so sensitive lol
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:34 pm to lsuexpert57
He averaged literally less than 1 yd per carry against FSU. Outside the opening play which worked to perfection, he was a non-factor.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:13 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm just saying the defense of not playing some freshmen game 1 makes more sense than others depending on position. If you're ready to go game 2 then you're PROBABLY "ready" game 1 too.
we played FSU game one and grambling game 2.
the jump from HS to grambling is slightly smaller.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:46 am to thunderbird1100
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It was a 1 yard run on 1st/goal
Still shows they trusted him to put him in at that spot. So makes it weird he had no snaps vs Grambling
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:14 am to thunderbird1100
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You dont need to be a math major to understand with only 1 guy on the field at a time having 8 guys you can go to makes zero sense there
Agreed, but I don't think Kelly wants that either. What's weird is we barely had enough RBs to have spring practice.
I think the RB group will have more clarity next year. You will get several of the seniors/upperclassmen gone from the roster either through completed eligibility or transfer.
LSU will probably lose 3-4 running backs and gain 1, so it should work itself out.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:27 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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What's weird is we barely had enough RBs to have spring practice.
Which is kinda how we ended up with so many. We had 2 freshmen incoming, and these guys returning:
- Williams - nagging injury from late in '22 that forced him to miss the bowl, get surgery and be limited in spring
- Goodwin - coming off a season-ending injury and injury history going back to HS
- Cain - healthy at LSU (though injury issues at Penn State)
- Emery - status forever up in the air and probably at best they figured he might not be ready for the beginning of the season
Bradford was a long shot to even be in school. Just so happened his thing worked out.
So you go out and grab Diggs, because you could've easily been looking at Cain as the only healthy experienced RB to start the season.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:24 am to cajuntiger1010
quote:Maybe not even his skill, but to distract Fla State.
I think it was a gimmick play catered to his skill.
They saw the lineup, and first play was going to be Daniels throwing to Nabers, or maybe Taylor, or a deep ball (other side of the field) to the other WR.
No way LSU was going to throw it deep to a guy who hasn't even seen the field the past few years.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:41 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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LSU will probably lose 3-4 running backs and gain 1, so it should work itself out.
Exactly, it’s one of the few positions that is staggered by class, like how you want your depth to unfold.
Why are people pretending that having 8 RBs is taking away from other positions lol
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:30 pm to nicholastiger
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I was shocked he got the touches he did against FSU and nothing against Grambling
Well the wheel route was thrown to him. A great play and one we should use more often. He was supposed to be the back that catches well out of the backfield.
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