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TorF: the next LSU QB after Nuss will be a transfer

Posted on 10/8/23 at 9:58 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115561 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 9:58 am
Two of the best LSU QBs of all time are transfers. With the portal, teams are increasingly poaching great players from lesser schools. QBs develop and perform elite elsewhere and then try to up their stock at a place like LSU.

Collins and Hurley are obviously no guarantees of success. LSU is in play for two 5 star QBs in HS recruiting but both seem to be favored to go elsewhere.

Bonus question: Will LSU seemingly turning into an elite Offensive football team attract the top HS QBs to come?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75164 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 9:59 am to
That’s way too far ahead to even be thinking about. One Saturday at a time.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115561 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:01 am to
I’m not on the team like you are so I can think about tomorrow
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
1463 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:01 am to
Bryce Underwood
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1366 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:02 am to
I don’t think he is currently on the team or commited
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
2758 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:03 am to
Depends if we can get the kid from Michigan or not

Don’t think we’ve ever had one out of HS like him
This post was edited on 10/8/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278257 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:04 am to
If they need it to be, then yea. It is a proven, winning model even before the transfer portal.
Posted by MildManneredMadness
Member since Mar 2022
383 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:04 am to
False.
Posted by TigerNE
Everett, MA
Member since Jul 2013
1095 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:11 am to
History is your answer. We should bring in someone from the portal, regardless what the coaches think of Nuss.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9298 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:14 am to
I think it’s kind of funny how Hurley has gone from the next great LSU QB to “no guarantee of success.” Speaks to the futility of trying to project HS sophomores.

To the question - it’s impossible to really know how Collins and Hurley will develop, but if I were forced to guess I would say true.

Let’s look at LSU since 2012:
2012 - Mett (transfer)
2013 - Mett (transfer)
2014 - Jennings
2015 - Harris
2016 - Etling (transfer)
2017 - Etling (transfer)
2018 - Burrow (transfer)
2019 - Burrow (transfer)
2020 - Brennan/Finley/Johnson
2021 - Johnson
2022 - Daniels (transfer)
2023 - Daniels (transfer)

That’s 8 years of transfer QB’s and only 4 years of QB’s recruited by LSU out of high school. And most of those years were before the one-time transfer exception.
This post was edited on 10/8/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278257 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:21 am to
if you look at the national landscape the last few years, some of the most successful teams are led by portal QBs. You can cutout the development phase and have a turnkey situation almost immediately.


LSU fans are always way, way behind the times. They still think defenses should hold teams to 12points.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30107 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:23 am to
quote:

I’m not on the team like you are so I can think


I sometimes question whether anyone on this forum can think, myself included
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9298 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:27 am to
quote:

if you look at the national landscape the last few years, some of the most successful teams are led by portal QBs. You can cutout the development phase and have a turnkey situation almost immediately.

This brings up an interesting question - if you have a coach who can develop QB’s, is this good or bad?

Intuitively one would think “bad,” but I wonder if the experience these QB’s are getting under multiple schemes/QB coaches might actually help in a lot of cases. In other words - if you have a “QB whisperer” type of coach on your staff, is it possible that they can actually do more with a QB who has a different perspective coming in than a HS kid?

One thing is certain, there are a ton of transfers playing at an extremely high level nowadays.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22399 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:31 am to
Do you mean long term starter or just “the next QB to record a start after Nuss” ?
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15789 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:33 am to
I have no idea who is next, but there's increasing evidence every Saturday that this coaching staff is developing QBs at a very high level. That should help QB recruiting.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29973 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:36 am to
I’m not so sure we don’t bring in a qb to compete with Nuss next year

I don’t think Kelly will be content with the backups being Collins and a 17 year old freshman
This post was edited on 10/8/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10449 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:37 am to
Colin Hurley
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278257 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:55 am to
quote:

This brings up an interesting question - if you have a coach who can develop QB’s, is this good or bad?




Ohio St and Alabama have really only been the two teams that consistently do this at a high level. Unless him just having a huge brain fart. They are also unicorn programs.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5668 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:59 am to
The next QB after Jayden Daniels may be a transfer.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3261 posts
Posted on 10/8/23 at 11:02 am to
quote:

if you look at the national landscape the last few years, some of the most successful teams are led by portal QBs. You can cutout the development phase and have a turnkey situation almost immediately.


Well, if players would be happy to sit the bench and develop their first two years, then this can happen with players that are recruited. Transfers still sometimes need another year of play/development (see Burrow) at the school they transfer to.
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