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re: Tony Barnhart: "LSU with lots of losses on the defensive side."

Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:07 am to
Last year we lost 7 defensive starters to the draft

This year we lost 2
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1092 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:19 am to
I suspect that defensive line play will be slightly better than last year. We were thin at tackle and our ends lost contain quite a few times early in the year, but that got better. Hopefully that is fixed. A little better depth will improve things at tackle, even if the starters are not quite as talented (not making that claim, just trying to be objective)as last season. Overall, the defense should be better, mainly because the defensive backfield will be much better than what we started with last season.

But I agree with the comment that no one other than a coach knows the ins and outs of LSU like a die hard LSU fan. At this point, talking heads are just trying to attract attention. What they say now is for the most part of no real value. They will make more sense as the season progresses.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:30 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.


Of course it matters. I think the point that's baffling to most is that Wisconsin lost more key players from last years team and have just as many, if not more, question marks. Yet the "gurus" predict a dark cloud of inexperience and ineptitude will somehow engulf LSU and spare Wisconsin. Somehow I doubt that. Tigers win.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10506 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:35 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.


Following 2010, LSU lost:

Both starting interior lineman (Nevis and Levingston) that were combined more dominant than Freak and Ego.

Lost our starting stud MLB in Sheppard (bigger loss than Barrow)

Lost our best DB/CB in Peterson who I'd say was more important to LSU than Loston.

How'd that 2011 defense turn out?
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9414 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:40 am to
He's a homer for the state of georgia and alabama. doesn't spend much time heaping praise on any other teams.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Member since Sep 2006
61199 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:44 am to
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everything that I am hearing from SEC "insiders" here in Alabama is either wrong or dismissive.


Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6570 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:44 am to
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While this defense is young, I think it will be as good as in 2011.



Give that team some credit. D was legendary.

quote:

Following 2010, LSU lost:

Both starting interior lineman (Nevis and Levingston) that were combined more dominant than Freak and Ego.

Lost our starting stud MLB in Sheppard (bigger loss than Barrow)

Lost our best DB/CB in Peterson who I'd say was more important to LSU than Loston.

How'd that 2011 defense turn out?


Returned Reid, Claiborne, Simon, Mathieu, Baker, Brooks, Francois, Montgomery, Adams, Taylor...

Non-returning starters: Minter, Brockers, Logan, Edwards, Mingo, Freak... why make the comparison?

Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32457 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:45 am to
A 3 page thread about what Tony Barnhart 'said' tells me that even LSU fans are worried about the Wiskey game, and they should be.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5007 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:45 am to
Having Brockers, Bennie and Badger step up in '11 really helped. Not to mention Minter.

The question is: will Lacouture, Herron and ??? step up in '14?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279490 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:03 pm to
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The question is: will Lacouture, Herron and ??? step up in '14?




and will we have a honey badger? What about two 10 sack guys?
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14352 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Tony Barnhart is a field pea eating Georgia cracker.
fify
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Tony Barnhart is a speckled pea eating Georgia cracker.


Welcome to my world in the ATL.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Tony Barnhart NEVER gives LSU credit. Never has. He focuses on the East and Alabama and Auburn.



100% true. he thinks the SEC stops at the Bama border.


and he's just awful on air in any regard. TV radio whatever, dude is a cornball cracker
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22516 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 1:00 pm to
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a lot of people are going to be surprised.
I hope that's not us who are the ones surprised. Except in a good way.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:10 pm to
He's hosting Finebaum today if anyone wants to call..
Posted by dboyback
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2013
1579 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:20 pm to
LSU runs the ball 50 times for 400 yards. nothing else will matter
Posted by geauxldeneye
bossier city, louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
227 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:23 pm to
Loved having Loston as a tiger, all the talent needed. But he played like he had a dual personality; great one play and lost on the next.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56940 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.



Everything is relative.

Relative to Wisconsin, it really shouldn't be viewed as a cause for a disadvantage.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81952 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:30 pm to
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A 3 page thread about what Tony Barnhart 'said' tells me that even LSU fans are worried about the Wiskey game, and they should be.



Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26767 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 3:52 pm to
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Every team loses players. Every year. LSU returns 13 starters overall. He did not mention the losses of the other teams.


True. I actually looked this up a while back, the last 5 years (2014 is the fifth), LSU has only averaged 12.4 returning starters which is incredibly low. The lone time we had more than 13 (15) we went 13-1. We returned 10 in 2010 (horrible pass offense but 9th ranked defense) and went 11-2. It is remarkable the job Les and the whole staff does dealing with less experience every year. The talent evaluation is really great considering our best juniors are usually starting at some point their freshman year.


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Look, Tony Barnhart NEVER gives LSU credit. Never has. He focuses on the East and Alabama and Auburn. My point is simply that LSU has a lot of positives and the media only notices the negatives.



1000% THIS I use to watch the weekly SEC football one hour show they had (probably still) do, on CSS. Barnhart always downplayed LSU and talked that nonsense. I got so tired of him going on about Bama and UGA/UF.

quote:

LSU surprises people starting this week.


You damn right. 41-17 LSU

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