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re: Today is the 534th anniversary of one of the most consequential events in world history...
Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:28 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:28 am to RollTide1987
I just discovered that there was a time long ago when Gerard Depardieu wasn't a fat slob.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:37 am to beerJeep
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Leif Erickson says hinga dinga durgen! Not so fast!
Leif Erickson and his motley crew of misfits landed in Newfoundland, established a seasonal settlement, and then abandoned it without telling anyone what they had done or where they had been. They were the first Europeans to arrive in North America but their voyages would have been lost to the dustbin of history if not for archeology.
Columbus and the Spanish crown advertised what they had done to the rest of Europe.
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 9:39 am
Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
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established a seasonal settlement, and then abandoned it without telling anyone what they had done or where they had been. They were the first Europeans to arrive in North America but their voyages would have been lost to the dustbin of history if not for archeology.
Dude….. the Vinland sagas were 100% recorded and passed down…
It’s okay to say you were wrong.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:02 am to beerJeep
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Dude….. the Vinland sagas were 100% recorded and passed down…
Most Europeans during the Middle Ages probably knew little or nothing about the Vinland sagas. Knowledge of the Norse voyages survived primarily in Iceland and Scandinavia, although reports did reach continental Europe. Around 1075, the German chronicler Adam of Bremen mentioned Vinland, demonstrating that Europeans outside the Norse world had heard of it. By the time Columbus sailed in 1492, however, Vinland had largely disappeared from mainstream European geographical knowledge.
When scholars began seriously examining the Icelandic sagas in subsequent centuries, they debated whether the stories represented actual historical events or a mixture of history and folklore.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:05 am to beerJeep
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Top 5 goat endings
Love this movie and scene but I’ve always wondered about this: this was likely not Columbus but a bit later (maybe Cordoba?), right?
A few pieces to it:
- The Spanish didn’t contact the Yucatán until about 1517 or so
- There is already rampant plague / smallpox in the movie, indicating the Spanish had arrived elsewhere in the Americas well before the movie
- There are at least four ships in the scene (so not the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria)
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:07 am to beerJeep
whole film is so good.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:09 am to RollTide1987
quote:Yep. Columbus was not the first discoverer of the new would.
Columbus and the Spanish crown advertised what they had done to the rest of Europe.
But he was the last.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:10 am to beerJeep
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Dude….. the Vinland sagas were 100% recorded and passed down…
It’s okay to say you were wrong.
it's funny how some people get upset when updated facts dispute what they learned in 3rd grade.... yet also get mad when you say gulf of mexico instead of gulf of america
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 10:11 am
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:30 am to sgallo3
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it's funny how some people get upset when updated facts dispute what they learned in 3rd grade.
No one is upset.
Leif Erickson beat Christopher Columbus to the punch by about 500 years. No one is disputing that. However, Erickson's impact on world history was minimal while Columbus's was substantial.
The Vikings are a trivia question answer when it comes to the history of the United States and Canada.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:38 am to KiwiHead
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Furio had a problem celebrating anything accomplished by a Northern Italian.
Seems legit.
Sicily was the wheat aka bread basket for the Roman Empire. You can't field an army if you can't feed them.
Same with Stalin / Ukraine and now Putin / Ukraine. Without the wheat from Ukraine, neither Stalin or Putin can fed the Commie Army.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:42 am to sgallo3
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get mad when you say gulf of mexico instead of gulf of america
It should not be the Gulf of Mexico
It should not be the Gulf of America
Proper nomenclature should be Gulf of the Americas but that is too obvious to the slow witted in the political world of either naming era.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:44 am to RollTide1987
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Leif Erickson beat Christopher Columbus to the punch by about 500 years. No one is disputing that. However, Erickson's impact on world history was minimal while Columbus's was substantial.
Only because the Vikings didn’t stay. You called Vinland a “seasonal settlement.” Do you think that the Vikings never intended to stay? Vinland seemed set up to be prosperous. I believe they left because the noble savages forced them to.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:47 am to RollTide1987
my favorite bit of columbus day is that it started due to italian george floyd happenings in New Orleans
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:01 am to UptownJoeBrown
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In before the Indians were here first crowd.
I hate these people. They had roamed the parts of North America for thousands of years and their civilization was still primitive. They had no legal system and no legal ownership of the land. Just because you rode your horses around a certain area for hundreds or thousands of years doesn’t make it yours any more than it makes it the bison or the cows that graze it. I always point out that it was an economic and technological revolution that occurred. And the Indians would’ve been much better off if they had just cooperated and assimilated, but instead they chose savagery and to fight the arrival of the white man.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:01 am to Cheese Grits
Furio was from Calabria which is the toe of the boot. Cosa Nostra and Ndragheta working together.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:19 am to RollTide1987
The Chinese landed in California also, but went back and reported nothing to see there.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:24 am to sgallo3
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get mad when you say gulf of mexico instead of gulf of america
The people that get mad are trolling
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:32 am to Victor R Franko
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The Chinese landed in California also, but went back and reported nothing to see there.
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no real evidence that this happened before Columbus or during the Age of Discovery.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:49 am to RollTide1987
Box office bomb, but great film. Ridley Scott, no less. My favorite part are the ocean voyage scenes.
Columbus found the islands of Hispaniola but never found mainland North America due North. Another guy did. That's why the Americas aren't named after him.
Columbus found the islands of Hispaniola but never found mainland North America due North. Another guy did. That's why the Americas aren't named after him.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:16 pm to RollTide1987
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Most Europeans during the Middle Ages probably knew little or nothing about the Vinland sagas. Knowledge of the Norse voyages survived primarily in Iceland and Scandinavia, although reports did reach continental Europe. Around 1075, the German chronicler Adam of Bremen mentioned Vinland, demonstrating that Europeans outside the Norse world had heard of it. By the time Columbus sailed in 1492, however, Vinland had largely disappeared from mainstream European geographical knowledge.
So your original statement that columbus brought the knowledge to ALL EUROPE was indeed wrong.
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