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re: Tim Brando and Miles' Buyout

Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:24 pm to
Les isn't going anywhere unless he asks for a medical retirement for his brain damage. Other than that, we'd better get used to his wacky ways and his strange way of communicating.

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51621 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:27 pm to
seems like someone would've filed a public records request by now.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53821 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:28 pm to
Has any 5-0 coach been in this kind of hot seat before?

It's really strange when you look at the numbers

57-15, MNC 3 seasons ago..2 trips to ATL 1 SEC

4 BCS blow out victories in 5 seasons

Top 5 recruiting class on board

Are we stoned?
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:33 pm to
We are not as stoned as the guys coaching the offense and calling the plays.
Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

Then I blame Obama for us having to keep Les.
OMFG!
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1658 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:32 pm to
The silver bullet is McCarthy and his recruiting violation under Miles' watch. Les' buyout will be negotiated down due to the conduct clause.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56939 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

They are seperate but there is no way they are gonna deal with the HORRIBLE PR that goes with buying out Miles at this time.


meh

You are overblowing it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56939 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:40 pm to
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I want one piece of information confirming this because I'm almost positive it isn't so.


What are you basing your opinion on?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16090 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 8:55 pm to
So consensus of thread...contract ends 12/31/14...buyout after this year is $15 million...if terminated this year, buyout can be paid over 8 years...

In short, we could lose every game the rest of this year and the next and financially we could still be stuck with Miles.
Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1484 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 9:36 pm to
Just a possibility I was thinking of...

I think the lawyerly people are probably right about the contract requiring rollover.

I think there has to be some basis for the assumption that he hasn't been rolled over.

So let's look at how that could happen:

2008 - LSU wins only SEVEN regular season games. The contract is vague to this point. LSU could certainly interpret it this way. Miles would probably not agree and would be upset that he wasn't rolled over...as per the rumors.

2009 - Miles wins 8 regular season games triggering the presumption of a rollover. However there is a recruiting violation by a coach on staff that requires his termination and a self report to the NCAA. There is certainly the possibility that LSU used this as a reason to deny the rollover for cause.

This is just an opinion of course...but it is at least a possible explanation that covers all the legal bases I think and would explain the confusion.
Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1484 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 9:36 pm to
Just a possibility I was thinking of...

I think the lawyerly people are probably right about the contract requiring rollover.

I think there has to be some basis for the assumption that he hasn't been rolled over.

So let's look at how that could happen:

2008 - LSU wins only SEVEN regular season games. The contract is vague to this point. LSU could certainly interpret it this way. Miles would probably not agree and would be upset that he wasn't rolled over...as per the rumors.

2009 - Miles wins 8 regular season games triggering the presumption of a rollover. However there is a recruiting violation by a coach on staff that requires his termination and a self report to the NCAA. There is certainly the possibility that LSU used this as a reason to deny the rollover for cause.

This is just an opinion of course...but it is at least a possible explanation that covers all the legal bases I think and would explain the confusion.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32457 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

The silver bullet is McCarthy and his recruiting violation under Miles' watch. Les' buyout will be negotiated down due to the conduct clause.
Someone please activate the poison pill now.
Posted by tntigger
On a farm most likely
Member since Nov 2009
642 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 9:57 pm to
Tim Brando's obesity is underrated. He's really fat.
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5569 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

Does anyone know where there is a copy of the contract?


40 pages worth of reading!
This post was edited on 10/8/10 at 11:29 pm
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12270 posts
Posted on 10/8/10 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

Whomever re-upped his contract should be fired and sued for bad faith and breach of fiduciary duty


dude is long gone...keep up
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9605 posts
Posted on 10/9/10 at 12:30 am to
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Then I blame Obama for us having to keep Les.


Posted by nrsaint
Tiger Country
Member since Jan 2006
51 posts
Posted on 10/9/10 at 6:45 am to
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In the end, we have a dumbass AD and chancellor to thank for even allowing such a stupid contract to be drafted, signed, and approved for a man that was never even offered another job.

Bertman and O'Keefe panicked like the morons they are and basically screwed over LSU in the process.


Lombardi and the LSU attorney drew up that contract, and Lombardi got the BOS to sign off on it. Was Bertman's hire, but wasn't him that generated that extension.

Also, everyone who is trying to calculate the buyout. Throw all the calculators out. Bank it, the buyout is $15M to be paid over 8 years...period.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26442 posts
Posted on 11/2/10 at 2:58 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/2/10 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 11/2/10 at 3:08 pm to
I'm not reading all the pages of this thread but for the people saying his buyout is his annual salary x 4 years

shouldn't the buyout be that amount at present value?
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