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re: Thought LSU played almost flawless against CC except for this

Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:23 pm to
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It’s really time for lsu fans to just sit back and trust that Jay is gonna do the right thing time after time and that includes coaching up players to hustle or not.

Every coach has a style, and every style has negatives as well as positives. Jay is a players coach. I'm not complaining because he's very good at that style and has the results to prove it. But the negative is that kind of lack of hustle is cured by getting your arse chewed. Jay is not going to do that.
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:35 pm to
One of Jones homers was barely out and he watched it a bit too long. Even the announcer commented he obviously knows this ballpark. With what’s on the line, wind etc why even risk it?

Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:47 pm to
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I'm not convinced Brown would have scored on that play. I agree that he jogged at the beginning, and I have a feeling Jordan would have sent him if he had been running full steam the whole way. But I think there would have been a play at the plate.

It’s no excuse for the lack of hustle. I just question whether that’s a guaranteed run like people seem to think.


I just watched the play again and he actually was still jogging for part of the way between 2nd and 3rd before I assume he picked up the 3rd base coach. IMO, he would have scored...he was way off of first base when contact was made and the ball stayed in the air for 5.6 seconds according to the announcers. Plus, the fielder was not in great position to throw even after he picked up the dropped ball.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5125 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 1:51 pm to
I made a post about this Su day


There were those that argued he could t have scored
Typical rantards


I was sitting 100 ft away from him
I was like wtf Jake brown run!
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 2:13 pm to
agree 100% and I hope it is a teaching moment for JJ in the fall workouts. Little things can make the difference between celebrating a title to crying in the dugout.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:11 pm to
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I just watched the play again and he actually was still jogging for part of the way between 2nd and 3rd before I assume he picked up the 3rd base coach. IMO, he would have scored...he was way off of first base when contact was made and the ball stayed in the air for 5.6 seconds according to the announcers. Plus, the fielder was not in great position to throw even after he picked up the dropped ball.

It’s 90 yards from first base around to home. Even if he was 1/3 of the way to second base when the ball was hit, it’s still 80 yards. Actually a little more because he’s going to round off the corners.

So the question becomes: could Brown have run 80+ yards, changing direction twice, in 5.6 seconds plus the time it takes to throw the ball back home?

He very well might make it. I just don’t think it’s guaranteed.
Posted by notbilly
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:20 pm to
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2) Jake Brown was on first and Jared Jones hit a moon shot pop-up in short center with 2 outs. Brown jogged from 1st to 2nd and then on the way to 3rd picked up the pace. Once again, not hard to predict a dropped Jones hit pop-up (see Arkansas where it happened twice). Brown should have scored on that play but lack of hustle only allowed him 3rd base.


He would not have scored. The fastest players in MLB take about 11 seconds to run 3 bases. The ball was in the air for 5.5 seconds. Do you all still believe that in 5.5 seconds, that second baseman couldn't have picked up the ball and thrown Brown out at home? Short of a bad throw, Brown is out.
Posted by 2quik
Member since Sep 2024
264 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:22 pm to
Umpires were completely out of line tossing the 2 CC coaches in game 2 .Thats all Ill say about that. Better team won in LSU
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:26 pm to
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lack of hustle


Many on this board pointed those plays out. Definitely a weak signal that this culture may not be as bulletproof as we were made to believe.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:28 pm to
It’s a systemic problem relative to the generation. They aren’t bad people or kids. They need to be pushed the way I was as a kid. Some kids still do it, but most don’t. It doesn’t even occur to them.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9076 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:32 pm to
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Yes, but I would add Milam's "almost" HR in game 1. He watched it going to first and only got a double, should have ended up on third if he ran out the batters box.


And scored on the passed ball with the next batter.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19679 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:33 pm to
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Every coach has a style, and every style has negatives as well as positives. Jay is a players coach. I'm not complaining because he's very good at that style and has the results to prove it. But the negative is that kind of lack of hustle is cured by getting your arse chewed. Jay is not going to do that.

Couldn’t disagree more. They have Marine officers in WW2 that never yelled and got their message across. I’m sorry I just read a book called “In with the Old Breed” with the guy from the mini series “The Pacific”, lol. Yelling and screaming isn’t a part of demanding high standards. In fact it can be counterproductive. The standard for hustle is set and the coach demands it. It doesn’t have to be yelling and screaming.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 6:53 am
Posted by Bill W Tiger
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:38 pm to
I don't even hold Eyanson much responsible for the HRs. I think we all know those are barely warning track outs except for the gale blowing from right to left. Defense was great. The problem I did have (my brother noticed the same thing) was the lack of hustle a couple of times.

1) Milam hit that pop-up near the LF line which I figured was going to drop due to the wind blowing it away from the infield. He TROTS down to first base and if running would have made 2nd easily as the announcers said.

2) Jake Brown was on first and Jared Jones hit a moon shot pop-up in short center with 2 outs. Brown jogged from 1st to 2nd and then on the way to 3rd picked up the pace. Once again, not hard to predict a dropped Jones hit pop-up (see Arkansas where it happened twice). Brown should have scored on that play but lack of hustle only allowed him 3rd base.

I know it was a scorcher and running takes energy but this was the CWS...they weren't playing Little Sisters of the Poor up 12-0.


This is very true!
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Ice Cold
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:39 pm to
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lack of hustle
Jones's slow walk on his barely-a-homer really stood out. It's one thing when he mashes one at the Box and it's a no-doubter, but it's completely different in Omaha with a bigger stadium, tricky winds, and a title on the line.
Posted by Bill W Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:40 pm to
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Umpires were completely out of line tossing the 2 CC coaches in game 2 .Thats all Ill say about that. Better team won in LSU



Are you on drugs?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52529 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 4:02 pm to
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The standard for hustle is set and the coach demands it. It doesn’t have to be yelling and screaming.

That’s true. There are other ways of achieving it. But when there are three blatant examples, in a championship game, Jay isn’t using any of those alternatives very well.
Posted by Boboss504
Member since Mar 2022
129 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 4:08 pm to
They won the national championship, shut the frick up
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2755 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 4:42 pm to
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It’s 90 yards from first base around to home. Even if he was 1/3 of the way to second base when the ball was hit, it’s still 80 yards. Actually a little more because he’s going to round off the corners.

So the question becomes: could Brown have run 80+ yards, changing direction twice, in 5.6 seconds plus the time it takes to throw the ball back home?

I don't know if he was 1/3 of the way but at least 1/4 of the way to 2nd base so we agree there. You also are not accounting for the time it took the infielder to pick up the ball and turn around to be in position to throw since of course he was facing the outfield when the ball hit the ground. I looked at the play multiple times and he was jogging from 1st to 2nd and jogging at least a third of the way from 2nd to 3rd before obviously the 3rd base coach got on him to put his arse in gear. He was dogging it on the play without a doubt. I continue to say he would have made it home SAFELY unless the throw was perfect. BTW, you also don't include the time it takes for the catcher to make the catch and swing around and tag the runner and the fact that Jake Brown surely would have made a slide making ANY tag difficult. Jake Brown IMO cost LSU a run on that play.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2755 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 4:45 pm to
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He would not have scored. The fastest players in MLB take about 11 seconds to run 3 bases. The ball was in the air for 5.5 seconds. Do you all still believe that in 5.5 seconds, that second baseman couldn't have picked up the ball and thrown Brown out at home? Short of a bad throw, Brown is out.


He would have scored. And BTW, Jake Brown didn't have to run "3 bases". As another posted already, he thought he was 1/3 of the way to 2nd when Jones swung...I said I thought more like 1/4. You also seem to forget that the fielder would have to turn around to be in position to throw since he was facing the outfield. You also don't mention the time it would take for the catcher to field the ball and also swing around his arms to make the tag. Oh, and Jake Brown surely would have tried to slide around the tag to begin with.
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