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re: This will probably not be well received by some re: wiretap

Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:38 pm to
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The wiretap and federal case is what makes this whole thing so unusual and tricky though.

-Wade cant discuss with his employers because then that becomes discoverable in the court case. Not meeting with you employer when asked to do so in any scenario generally frowned upon. Cant blame Wade for not doing so but also can't blame LSU for what they did.

-Wade just can't simply artfully explain away the language on the wiretap. I know there's a lot of amateur Perry Masons on here but testifying under oath in a federal case is a big deal. If its proven his testimony is untrue (and unlike NCAA, Fed govt has subpoena powers to prove things are untrue) he could face perjury charges.

- Wade can't just plead the Fif. You have the right against self-incrimination but that only pertains to criminal activity. Paying for recruits isn't criminal activity; it's a NCAA no-no. You also cant say I plead the Fif because if I do testify I'm going to lie and that could lead to perjury. Doesn't work that way.

I love the guy and I hope he's here for a thousand years but he is in a really tough spot.



Thanks for the clear analysis. Too bad our admin could not recognize the situation and before they reacted so hastily to media reports.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45710 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:45 pm to
Seriously. It could have been an offer that he would meet with and recruit another family member, friend or classmate. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4860 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Irish LSU Fan


You don't REALLY believe the crap you just posted do you?

They did it to placate the media...why not fire him if they know it was REALLY BAD?????

Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8302 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:51 pm to
You need a snickers bar, bro.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4860 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

You need a snickers bar, bro.


I need potentially the best BB coach ever to walk through the doors of my alma mater to be coaching. Not suspended for no legitimate reason.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:55 pm to
If you will please put a positive spin on the phrase “one hell of an offer”.....doctor.

Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:55 pm to
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- Wade can't just plead the Fif. You have the right against self-incrimination but that only pertains to criminal activity. Paying for recruits isn't criminal activity; it's a NCAA no-no. You also cant say I plead the Fif because if I do testify I'm going to lie and that could lead to perjury. Doesn't work that way.


What he says is "I don't recall."
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:56 pm to
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It just doesn't make sense LSU would do this to our amazing BB team otherwise.
You

don't

know

Alleva's

history.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39861 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 1:58 pm to
Everyone knew that punk arse white MAGA boy taunted and halted the indigenous guy at the Lincoln Memorial.

The firestorms are similar.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24957 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:01 pm to
Providing the benefit isn't what matters.

Proof of a paper trail is.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

What's the climate like right now in the Athletic Department?
70-74 degrees and 40-50% humidity.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4860 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:45 pm to
I'm not up to speed on that story, are you being sarcastic?
Posted by Remulan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
782 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:50 pm to
There is no way an AD would fire a coach and suspend an athletic team solely on the word of a crack head hooker. Right? Right?
Posted by Moonlight
Florence, Italy
Member since Jan 2007
1171 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:54 pm to
Still don't see any collusion in the allegations.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 3:01 pm to
Awesome post OP.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

why not fire him if they know it was REALLY BAD?????

Waiting for the NCAA to investigate and publish findings. Then LSU will be in a solid "legal" position to terminate.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 3:25 pm to
Good points that could also be made in Alleva's defense.

The moral of the story is, don't jump to conclusions, allow time for all the details to emerge.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

There is no way an AD would fire a coach and suspend an athletic team solely on the word of a crack head hooker. Right? Right?

This is my point....JA has certainly learned a lesson from his mishandling of the Duke issue. I think LSU knows a lot more about this than what has been reported in the news.
Posted by Gutsandbutts
Member since Sep 2011
770 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 3:38 pm to
I’m clearly not an attorney but maybe one can give some input. I would imagine that a federal subpoena in a very broad and high profile case like this one would include a gag order of some kind. Maybe it wasn’t just Wade’s attorney but the feds making him keep his mouth shut. Possible? Probable?
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Even if you do know without any doubt, if you can't provide proof, then it doesn't matter.



In a court of law, yes. That is not how the NCAA operates. All they need is a discussion of an offer being made.

Now, the University can go on the offensive and deny it all day, paint the NCAA as the antagonist, and place the blame on them for the circus that goes on under their watchful eye. They then go to the media with the same reports but make sure your story has zero holes to refute.

Also, don't have a cuck in charge.
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