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re: This team is NOT a LOCK for the NCAA tourney
Posted on 2/4/22 at 5:20 am to Madking
Posted on 2/4/22 at 5:20 am to Madking
Good god. I swear to God I do feel sorry for you. Holy hell.
I thought about it, and no way you are that stupid to not understand the % of players out, whether 1/15 or 10/85, or 1/5 or 10/22. No way you that stupid. Troll. By the way kid, never worked for government. Do you think there is a different CPA exam for government employees vs private sector? Lol. It's a brutal exam, assuming you even knew there was an exam. Spent 2 years at Arthur Andersen Houston before Deloitte in Nola, then on to Corporate America the last 30+. Great career, but Government has its perks too.
I thought about it, and no way you are that stupid to not understand the % of players out, whether 1/15 or 10/85, or 1/5 or 10/22. No way you that stupid. Troll. By the way kid, never worked for government. Do you think there is a different CPA exam for government employees vs private sector? Lol. It's a brutal exam, assuming you even knew there was an exam. Spent 2 years at Arthur Andersen Houston before Deloitte in Nola, then on to Corporate America the last 30+. Great career, but Government has its perks too.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 6:01 am
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:57 am to lsufb1912
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January was the hardest stretch of their schedule
Yep, and they dropped 5/6 games during that stretch. So, yes maybe they still get in but they are going to play competition as good or better then the 5/6 they just dropped. Not unless there is some miracle that happens on the offensive side of the ball this team is .500 for the rest of the season.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:44 am to mtb010
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some miracle that happens on the offensive side
You mean like getting healthy?
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:07 am to mtb010
They think one guy is going to fix the offensive scheme. Bless their heart. Worst thing that could have happened is beating up on cupcakes in pre-conference.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:51 am to rutiger
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You mean like getting healthy?
I guess i missed all of those dominant offensive performances when everyone was healthy.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:55 am to Yeahright
Sub.500 in SEC will not be good enough and that is where this is headed.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:15 am to geauxtigers33
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Not great but it wasn’t weak either. It’s ranked top 50 in the country.
The OOC SOS is currently 175. That's not great. The FACTS are this will likely be Wade's "worst" OOC schedule since he has been at LSU (outside of last season...which I wouldn't hold against anyone because coaches were just trying to find teams able to play). Compare that with the 5th best OOC SOS in 2029 and 8th best in 2020. The good news is that while the OOC schedule probably won't provide a ton of help in March, LSU did go 12-1 against it...with 4 wins away from home. That is something.
If the NCAAT started today LSU would be in. The problems is it doesn't and LSU is trending badly in the wrong direction.
Lose 3 of your first 7 SEC games? Ok. It was a really tough schedule that you played 5 games of which without starters in your backcourt.
Lose at a decent, but not great TCU team. Not great. But home teams went 9-1 in the Big 12/SEC challenge.
But then you lose to an 11-10 Ole Miss team...at HOME...in a game Ole Miss largely controlled throughout. A second straight game a sub 100 offense completely destroyed your #1 defense. That is a big concern that can't be spun away.
LSU now goes on the road for two straight. Neither Vandy nor A&M are great teams. But neither was Ole Miss or TCU. And LSU only has one road victory this season with an average margin of defeat of 10 points in their 4 road losses.
Objectively, it is hard to have a lot of confidence in LSU right now. That is not to say LSU can't and won't right the ship. But they have to start ASAP. Otherwise, this may look like the 15-16 South Carolina team. One that started 15-0 with a fairly weak schedule before finishing 9-8 and missing out on the NCAAT.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:35 am to Alt26
vandy was in a close one with kentucky.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:40 am to Alt26
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Objectively, it is hard to have a lot of confidence in LSU right now. That is not to say LSU can't and won't right the ship. But they have to start ASAP. Otherwise, this may look like the 15-16 South Carolina team. One that started 15-0 with a fairly weak schedule before finishing 9-8 and missing out on the NCAAT.
Our schedule isn't weak it's the 20th toughest in the country, but you only pay attention to our OOC sos which isn't great, but our difficult early SEC schedule is why our SOS is so high.
I can’t find NET rankings for 2016 the closest I’ve found is what on this website, LINK, they were ranked 51 in this rating meaning their SOS was likely very weak. Compare that to LSU right now in 2022 on the same website we are ranked 10. I don't think you can compare the two right now.
If we lose to UGA and Mizzou at home I would be worried but right now we are in the tourney.
Edit: that was the Ben Simmons year for LSU. Looking back the SEC was weak that season only 3 teams made the NCAA tourney. Texas A&M, Kentucky, and Vandy. This year experts are predicting 6 or 7 teams to make the tourney. So not a good comparison.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 11:46 am
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:58 am to catholictigerfan
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Our schedule isn't weak it's the 20th toughest in the country, but you only pay attention to our OOC sos which isn't great, but our difficult early SEC schedule is why our SOS is so high.
I was responding to a post specifically about the OOC schedule. Yes, you are right, LSU's conference schedule has been difficult...which makes the overall SOS much stronger.
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I can’t find NET rankings for 2016 the closest I’ve found is what on this website
That is because NET did not exist in 2016.
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in this rating meaning their SOS was likely very weak. Compare that to LSU right now in 2022 on the same website we are ranked 10.
Their OOC SOS was 265 that year (using a different metric - RPI). The biggest thing that hurt USC that year is they only had one win vs. the RPI top 50. LSU is in much better shape right now, so it is not a complete apples to apples comparison.
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Edit: that was the Ben Simmons year for LSU. Looking back the SEC was weak that season only 3 teams made the NCAA tourney. Texas A&M, Kentucky, and Vandy. This year experts are predicting 6 or 7 teams to make the tourney. So not a good comparison.
I was using that USC team as an example of a major conf team that started the season winning 15 straight...only to (controversially) not make the NCAAT. Not necessarily as a direct comparison in terms of resume. This LSU team does have more meat on their resume right now. So they have a greater margin for error.
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If we lose to UGA and Mizzou at home I would be worried but right now we are in the tourney.
Fully agree. But the tournament isn't starting today. that's where the degree of concern comes in. Right now LSU is playing their way out of the tournament.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:06 pm to Alt26
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Fully agree. But the tournament isn't starting today. that's where the degree of concern comes in. Right now LSU is playing their way out of the tournament.
I'm concerned but I still think we make the tourney.
We have plenty of meat left on the schedule to improve our position. Again as I said UGA and Mizzou are the only games we can’t lose if we don’t want to miss. I’m not saying we only need to win those two games to make it but those are games that hurt us a lot.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:29 pm to TeddyPadillac
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we'd literally have to lose almost every game to not make the tourney.
I think the OP’s point is that the way the team is playing right now, that’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility. If they are losing home games to Arkansas and Ole Miss, there’s really no game you can point to as a sure win at this point. I firmly believe they are a better team than that and will get it turned around, but there’s no arguing that they aren’t playing like a tournament team lately.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Yes they are
Joe lounardy says they are a lock. He has them nowhere near bubble
That’s not how this works. If tourney started today, yes we’d be in.
If we continue our current form (ie finish 20-11) we are not a lock for the tourney. Hypothetically we could finish 16-15 and not even get a CBI invite much less the NIT.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:33 pm to Topwater Trout
You’re right but if we lose another or next 4 of 5 we Don’t Deserve to be in tournament
Posted on 2/4/22 at 1:17 pm to StAugFLTiger
You really are a clueless dope with zero self awareness.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 1:59 pm to Madking
Look who woke up finally..lmao It's funny watching losers like you, sleep all day, get up and check their welfare balance to see that the govt check hit on this Friday. What a life you have for yourself. But hey, you don't have to work hard, and you at least met that goal.
You know, I'm not filthy rich, but I'm pretty proud of what I've accomplished in life. It certainly wasn't done by being a dumbass or having a lack of work ethic. I'm fairly certain with a keyboard warrior like you, work ethic is something that never took with you.
You know, I'm not filthy rich, but I'm pretty proud of what I've accomplished in life. It certainly wasn't done by being a dumbass or having a lack of work ethic. I'm fairly certain with a keyboard warrior like you, work ethic is something that never took with you.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:01 pm to StAugFLTiger
Lol as usual all you can do is make shite up. It’s all you do, there’s never a fact among any of your statements, but then again you claim to be a CPA and you don’t even understand simple math so.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 2/4/22 at 2:03 pm to StAugFLTiger
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not sure 9-9 gets them in
It does, absolutely. 21-10 overall with an overvalued NET we're in 100%. I will not listen to any arguments.
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